The redneck strike again.

[Confused Ape]

but the problem is that the meat come in cans not fresh from the butcher.
What this means?
It means that the meat is mixed with preservatives and all sort o'sh..
This is not natural that is why the dogs get sick.

Even meat which is fresh from the butcher isn't natural. Animals are given growth promoting drugs and antibiotics and then the meat is treated to keep it looking appetizing etc.

70 percent of all beef and chicken sold in the United States, Canada, UK and Australia and many other countries contain a growing number of preservatives, meat glues, and antibacterial/antifungal/antiviral sprays. They also are commonly treated with carbon monoxide gas injections to make meat appear more fresh than it actually is.

Our remote ancestors ate meat which was free from all these additives. The world wasn't poisoned with industrial pollution and pesticides back then either.

So where the majority of Gujarati people of India that have been veg.
for countless generation get the b12? They never take b12 supplement.

Maybe their fruit and veg haven't been washed in chlorine to remove the vitamin B12 bacteria. Or maybe they still get the bacteria from their drinking water. This is all supposing that the information in the article I quoted from in an earlier post is correct, of course, because it's on a vegan and vegetarian website. I suspect that the author is biased but trying to find an unbiased opinion on the subject is very difficult because pro-meat eaters can be very biased too.

People didn't know about Vitamin B12 in the past but word is getting round.

Nutrients required for a healthy Jain Vegan lifestyle

Vitamin B12

B12 is only found in Animal products (where bacteria produce the B12 in their bodies)

We need to get our Vitamin B12 levels checked and suppliment as required

Vegan supplements of Vitamin B12 made directly from bacteria are available

Q: Is it not hinsa to kill bacteria for B12? A:Yes but this is better than killing a 5 sensed being for B12

They are healthy people

I found an interesting article on the Times Of India website. Heart diseases are in Gujarati gene

Interestingly, the genome has established the hunch of local doctors — Gujaratis have a genetic predisposition to hypertension and heart disease.

Apart from high BP and heart disease, the study has revealed that although there are no signs of neurological disorders like Parkinson's and Alzheimer, this individual is genetically susceptible to develop such disease.

So you know for sure that our ancestors normal diet include .hit?

That piece of information came from the vegan/vegetarian website and is one of the reasons why I suspect that the author is biased.

Ancestra Diet According To Vegan Author

Plant-eating primates such as the gorilla (and our human ancestors and many people in developing countries) obtain a plentiful supply of B12 from their consumption of plants due to the presence of insects and bacterial contamination of their plant foods and water. Some primates eat faeces and soil which may also provide a source of B12. When fed a sanitised diet, in a zoo for example, primates often develop B12 deficiency (2).

She forgot to mention that the chimpanzee, our closes relative which shares a common ancestor with us, likes to eat a bit of meat on occasion.

Yeah.
My grandfather die at 96.
He was drinking liters of wine and smoking 2 cigars a day
plus some meat once a week.
I should follow his way of life.
What an idea!

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As I said in another post, it doesn't pay to be dogmatic about these things. Maybe the real truth is that we adapted to eating some meat but we now eat far too much of it etc.etc.

The way I see it, there are two main issues concerned with meat eating in our modern world.

1: Ethics because of the way animals and birds are raised and slaughtered for the meat industry.
2: Practicality because of the amount of resources used to produce a pound of meat compared to producing a pound of vegetables.

Going vegan or vegetarian still has ethical considerations, though, because many foods manufactured for vegans/vegetarians contain palm oil. Where do the manufacturers get it from? After all, there's no point feeling virtuous about eating a veggie burger if rain forest has been destroyed in order to produce one of the ingredients.

The only problem with this theory is that consciousness is not physical
so it is obvious to me that it can not be generated by something physical.

Even if consciousness isn't physical it still has to operate through the human brain. This brings us back to the question of what human consciousness is. Take your pick from the following article.

Consciousness