(May 6, 2014 at 8:15 pm)Godslayer Wrote:Now you're just being obtuse. The difference between B and C is that B is unnecessary and C doesn't exist. That's the difference.(May 6, 2014 at 11:28 am)alpha male Wrote: I'm the one who made the God D, so I don't know why you're referring to me in the third person. The purpose of my initial post was to suggest ways to improve the OP. The purpose wasn't to duck, as I believe in an A god.
Yeah, I got you mixed up with Godschild on who proposed God D when they shouldn't have. I still see no problem with my example of God B or how you think there is some problem, everyone else except the theists seem to be getting it here. Adding a God D violates the challenge by the way, bit obfuscating too.
(May 6, 2014 at 11:28 am)alpha male Wrote: IMO the Christian god has been "verified or detected to some degree." You have different criteria for detection and/or verification. THat's about all there is to it.
Who got the Nobel Prize for discovering god again?...Obviously you have terrible criteria for verification or detection if you think any god has been verified let alone your particular one (and which sect is the right one anyway). But seriously, what do you have? personal experience? because you sure as hell don't have scientific verification.
(May 6, 2014 at 2:40 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: A Ground of Being or Unmoved Mover also affect reality in the sense of serving as the basis for it. Such a "God of the Philosophers" also counts as detectable since the evidence for its existence is the whole of reality.
Anyway...let's put this to rest.
A is a necessary being.
B is a unnecessary being.
C is a nonbeing.
Done.
Hey look, Chad came by to duck the challenge of differentiation of God B and God C again.
(May 6, 2014 at 11:48 am)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Funny how someone can claim that all day long, yet God A is currently indistinguishable from God B.
There's a very old self-contradictory book of dubious origin, that doesn't line up with the historical record and posits God A, but the empirical way God A manifests in the book doesn't line up with reality as observed today.
Good point, God A and God B would be eerily similar as B and C are.
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