(May 8, 2014 at 11:47 am)lordofgemini Wrote: Well obviously I won't consider everything to be eternal or even two things. Then it wouldn't make sense since why are two things eternal, there must be a first. Only a single thing can be eternal.
Why can only one thing be eternal? Why can't the whole of existence, and all of the stuff within, be eternal? That seems far likelier, to me, then all of it being magicked out of nothing, because if there was just God, he's a special exception that can't be justified.
Quote:The universe as in the one we are in does have a beginning, or no? This is why I called it created, because its existence is as a result of an action of the eternal entity. Thus its created
The universe as we know it has a beginning. We have absolutely zero idea what sort of state it was all in 'before' that. The stuff that makes up our universe was already there, as far as we can tell. It didn't just blink into existence out of nothing one day.
Furthermore, tossing an 'eternal entity' into the mix lacks explanatory power, and merely adds an unnecessary roadblock to understanding. It is a sign reading "don't bother trying to figure this out".
Since nobody has any actual knowledge on the subject, guessing that it was all the work of some invisible monster who exists alone, outside of space and time is, to put it very mildly, going out on one thin fucker of a limb.
