RE: The Million Dollar Question
May 8, 2014 at 10:20 pm
(This post was last modified: May 8, 2014 at 10:21 pm by Bad Writer.)
Welcome back, Stat! I hope you're fully recovered; this forum has been lacking in heavy YEC arguments since you went on hiatus, not that there's anything wrong with that, of course. 
Impressive in retrospect, especially since you've claimed that there had to be a creator for something that very well may have been natural. It's a shame nothing on so grand a scale occurs much as of late. All your god sees fit to do nowadays is bestow us with his esteemed visage from time to time.
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Damn, I want some of this water here turned to wine! Jesus has gotten really lame over the last 2000 years since he hung out with his groupies in Jerusalem.
Anything? Do you really think that we believe nothing exists?
Why do you make these straw men? You're better than this. Our pal here "lordofgemini" actually thinks that everything, a.k.a., our universe, is god. Discarding his definition of god, does not mean we discard everything with it.
Straw man again. The real answer is that we are not theists because a person believes cats are gods (e.g. the ancient Egyptians did worship cats). Most people have their own views of cats as simply animals with no supernatural abilities.
By this same token, we understand that you believe there was a man named Jesus. The fact that you worship this man does not also make us theists if we also acknowledge a belief that there was a man named Jesus.
So stop sitting there equating our belief in a thing with someone else's belief in the deistic nature of said thing. You don't have to create straw man arguments just so that you can have a debate with a group of people for which it appears you hold some disdain.
Also, please stop trying to convince us that we don't know the actual definition of "atheist". How hard is it to acknowledge that we have this term applied to us because we simply lack a belief in just one more deity than you?
(May 7, 2014 at 6:44 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:(May 7, 2014 at 5:47 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Creating the universe seems like a small and pitiful thing compared to a being that can supposedly do anything/everything.
I find it rather impressive myself.
Impressive in retrospect, especially since you've claimed that there had to be a creator for something that very well may have been natural. It's a shame nothing on so grand a scale occurs much as of late. All your god sees fit to do nowadays is bestow us with his esteemed visage from time to time.
Damn, I want some of this water here turned to wine! Jesus has gotten really lame over the last 2000 years since he hung out with his groupies in Jerusalem.
SW Wrote:That’s my point; so as an atheist you do not believe that anything actually exists?
Anything? Do you really think that we believe nothing exists?
SW Wrote:Since everything can be defined as a god and you do not believe in the existence of any gods you therefore do not believe that any one thing exists right?
Why do you make these straw men? You're better than this. Our pal here "lordofgemini" actually thinks that everything, a.k.a., our universe, is god. Discarding his definition of god, does not mean we discard everything with it.
SW Wrote:You said that the definition of the term “god” is determined by those who believe in it, so if you believe cats exist and as long as one person believes cats are gods according to your reasoning you would now be a theist and not an atheist.
Straw man again. The real answer is that we are not theists because a person believes cats are gods (e.g. the ancient Egyptians did worship cats). Most people have their own views of cats as simply animals with no supernatural abilities.
By this same token, we understand that you believe there was a man named Jesus. The fact that you worship this man does not also make us theists if we also acknowledge a belief that there was a man named Jesus.
So stop sitting there equating our belief in a thing with someone else's belief in the deistic nature of said thing. You don't have to create straw man arguments just so that you can have a debate with a group of people for which it appears you hold some disdain.
Also, please stop trying to convince us that we don't know the actual definition of "atheist". How hard is it to acknowledge that we have this term applied to us because we simply lack a belief in just one more deity than you?
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