RE: Does it make sense to speak of "Universal Consciousness" or "Univer...
May 14, 2014 at 7:45 am
(This post was last modified: May 14, 2014 at 7:47 am by Confused Ape.)
(May 13, 2014 at 10:28 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote: Maybe it's unfair of me to say this since I don't know the full contextm but I don't think Hawking knows what he's talking about there. With the way he presents his argument in your quote, you might as well say that ideas and beliefs are life. After all, they cannot exist without a host, they (especially deeply held ones) get their hosts to spread them to others,
Are Viruses Alive?
Quote:"Viruses straddle the definition of life. They lie somewhere between supra molecular complexes and very simple biological entities. Viruses contain some of the structures and exhibit some of the activities that are common to organic life, but they are missing many of the others. In general, viruses are entirely composed of a single strand of genetic information encased within a protein capsule. Viruses lack most of the internal structure and machinery which characterize 'life', including the biosynthetic machinery that is necessary for reproduction. In order for a virus to replicate it must infect a suitable host cell".
"Viruses exist in two distinct states. When not in contact with a host cell, the virus remains entirely dormant. During this time there are no internal biological activities occurring within the virus, and in essence the virus is no more than a static organic particle. In this simple, clearly non-living state viruses are referred to as 'virions'. Virions can remain in this dormant state for extended periods of time, waiting patiently to come into contact with the appropriate host. When the virion comes into contact with the appropriate host, it becomes active and is then referred to as a virus. It now displays properties typified by living organisms, such as reacting to its environment and directing its efforts toward self-replication".
On to computer viruses.
Computer viruses 'could cross frontier into biological realm'
Quote:Computer hackers could create malicious software that crosses the line from technology to biology, crafting viruses that could spread dangerous epidemics, researchers said at Black Hat Europe.
"We are really on the border between the living and the not living," said Guillaume Lovet, senior manager of Fortinet's Threat Research and Response Center, during a keynote speech discussing the similarities between biological and computer viruses. Fortinet was the main sponsor of the Black Hat Europe security conference in Amsterdam last week.
The comparison between computer and human viruses was made to give security researchers a better understanding of why the human immune system is so much better in battling viruses then antivirus systems.
"We came to wonder if there can be some kind of convergence between human viruses and computer viruses," Lovet added. "It may sound like a scenario for a bad Hollywood movie, but it is not such a stupid question."
One of the main things that led Fortinet researchers to that conclusion is the similarity between computer and human viruses. In essence they behave the same way, including information coding for parasitic behavior inside a host system.
Pure speculation and maybe people working in this field get paranoid.
There are umpteen articles on the internet pointing out similarities between how computer viruses and biological viruses work. Maybe computer viruses are the nearest we've got to creating life so far.
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