RE: Evidentialism
May 14, 2014 at 8:16 pm
(This post was last modified: May 14, 2014 at 8:17 pm by Tea Earl Grey Hot.)
(May 14, 2014 at 7:48 pm)bennyboy Wrote:(May 14, 2014 at 7:35 pm)Tea Earl Grey Hot Wrote: They serve as evidence to myself which is all that matters in a discussion of "how does one know things" (versus "how does one convince others of things.")Experiences in and of themselves only serve as evidence of those experiences. They are not a good source of evidence for underlying truth. For example, you can know exactly what it's like to have a certain kind of religious experience-- but that does not serve as evidence that God exists.
Well, what I'm saying is that there is no other way to coherently believe something to be true except by experience(s). Whether if what I believe is actually true or whether I used good methods of evaluating the evidence is another matter. What's being addressed here is whether experience (or "reason and evidence" as it's more commonly called) is required at all to coherently believe something is true. I'm saying for a person to hold a belief requires experiences that support the truth of that belief or at least seem to to themselves. There's no such thing as a belief without support anymore than there's a square circle. When certain people say for instance that they don't need any support at all to believe in God, they're just spouting gibberish.
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"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).