(May 16, 2014 at 4:10 am)Zidneya Wrote:(May 15, 2014 at 4:18 am)Godschild Wrote: You've said nothing, everything you've said is wrong, start with this one, name one civilization the scriptures say was destroyed because it wronged Christians?
GC
REALLY? Everything he said it’s wrong? Everything? Mmm lets see.
Quote:Religion has always been a way for people to feel special.
Zid Wrote:God gives Abraham and his descendants all of the land of Canaan forever. This promise is still used to justify the unending battles over the land in the Middle East.
But against any of the children of Israel shall not a dog move his tongue, against man or beast: that ye may know how that the LORD doth put a difference between the Egyptians and Israel. Exodus 11:7
Okay, I will say some religions may make people feel special and it's true the Israelites did, however Christianity is not a feel good religion, Christians have their lives through grace (unmerited love), because a high price was payed for us, we are to be a grateful people, not feeling we're special. Being saved by grace should be a humbling experience.
Quote:Christians don't want to believe in evolution because they don't want to feel as though they once walked close to the ground like "wild animals".
Zid Wrote:It seem to me that in that video theres a Christian that don’t want to believe in evolution because he don't want to think they once walked close to the ground like a"wild animal".
One man or a small group of Christians does not make up the whole of Christianity. Most Christians object to evolution because it goes against what God has told us, simple really. We do dislike evolution being taught to our children, which tries to convince them they are not a creation of God. We do not feel like we walked close to the ground, we reject that because we understand we were and are created.
Quote:They used to think they were the center of the galaxy - why? - because God thought they were special and he put them there.
Zid Wrote:And God said, Let us make man in our image(Ohh I should had added this to the evolution statement Ohh well never mind), after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Genesis 1:26
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 1:28
How do the verses you used have anything to do with the center of the universe, the scriptures do not say our planet is the center of the universe, and at one time almost everyone thought this planet was a the center, not just Christians.
Quote:Even the concept of Hell is a product of arrogance. The idea that "if you aren't like me, then you will surely suffer"
Zid Wrote:If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:13
"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Thousands of innocent women have suffered excruciating deaths because of this verse. Exodus22:18
Do not allow others to worship a different god. Conquer them and destroy their religious property. Exodus 23:24
Stay away from those who worship a different god. Exodus 23:32
And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book. Exodus 32:33
Hear, O earth: behold, I will bring evil upon this people, even the fruit of their thoughts, because they have not hearkened unto my words, nor to my law, but rejected it. Jeremiah 6:19
Things may get rough for Christians, but it will really be hell for nonbelievers. 1 Peter 4:17-18
There's no arrogance in those verses, God has made it very plain if one doesn't accept Christ as Lord and Savior they will spend eternity in hell. No arrogance, just a fact of how things will be because God's plan was set up to reward and punish through His justice.
Quote: totally lacks humility.
Zid Wrote:Jesus is the only way to heaven. All other religions lead to hell. John 14:6
One must humble themselves and admit to being a sinner who needs salvation from that sin, Christianity is base on being humble. Christians can't help that God set up His plan the way He did, it's His creation and plan, we accept it as He has ask.
Quote: Throughout the Bible, God destroys entire civilizations because they wronged the Christian people
Zid Wrote:Now this statement it’s partially flawd because you’re right God hasn’t destroyed anyone because it wronged Christians.
Let's say, completely wrong not partially flawed, let's call it like it is, unintelligent.
Zid Wrote:But god indeed has destroys entire civilizations because they wronged him, or his favorites.(But none of them where christians)
And it surely the bible promotes that kind of thinking.
No it doesn't, you have no clue why God told the Israelites to destroy other people who worshiped stone, wood, metal and clay gods, that was just for them not Christians.
Zid Wrote:Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn't the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. Mathew 5:17
Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn't care for his preaching. Mathew 11:20-24
Jesus strongly disapproves of cruelty against others, why did you not show those verses, cherry picking one of your favorite activities.
Jesus is the finial judge against man and his sinful ways, it's His right through justice to condemn those who reject Him.
Zid Wrote:Did you really thought that everyone will agreed with your Christian statement and no one will question it in a atheist forum?
AN ATHEIST FORUM?
I've been here four years, there is lots of disagreement with what I've stated, do you think you're the first to try and discredit what I believe, you certainly not the first to fail, but fail you have. I came here to be question so that I could strengthen my understanding of my God and His plan.
Zid Wrote:And I thought that the egalitarianism talkers that registered at Stormfront were naive.
Admit it I nailed you. Deal within it. And have a good day.
You nailed nothing, you've much to learn little one, maybe we can have another go at it when you learn more, have a good weekend, see you next week.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.