RE: Pro-life atheists
May 21, 2014 at 5:29 am
(This post was last modified: May 21, 2014 at 5:32 am by Tonus.)
(May 20, 2014 at 11:31 pm)Heywood Wrote:Eh, it's no more or less rubbish than lots of other religious claims. My point is that the line is drawn at a point that is very convenient for men, which is not surprising in male-dominated societies.(May 20, 2014 at 3:56 pm)Tonus Wrote: I think it's mostly a religious issue, promoted by male-dominated religions. So they could just as easily shift the burden by starting a bit earlier in the process. For example: if you masturbate, you are potentially destroying a human life. If you use a condom, or pull out before you ejaculate, or perform anal or oral sex, you are preventing the conception of a human being who might live for 80+ years because you don't want to be inconvenienced for 18 years.A sperm is as much a potential human being as a tire is a potential car. A tire by itself has no potential to be a car and a sperm by itself has no potential to be a human being. Claims that masturbation kills future human beings are rubbish.
(May 21, 2014 at 12:26 am)Zidneya Wrote: And parenthood is a lifetime job genius not a 18 year old one.You seem to have completely missed the point. Where in my post did I state or imply anything about parenthood?
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