RE: Pro-life atheists
May 22, 2014 at 5:01 pm
(This post was last modified: May 22, 2014 at 5:06 pm by Losty.)
(May 22, 2014 at 4:47 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:(May 22, 2014 at 4:41 pm)Losty Wrote: Comparing abortion to genocide? Really?
Eh, not quite. I was comparing the rationale--nothing more, nothing less-- that you cited in reply to this:
Quote:My dear kid brother, would not be here had his 12 year old mother aborted him. She had him, gave him up for adoption.
I didn't see anything having to do with abuse there. Yes, child abuse is horrible but to imply that the solution is more abortions, seems like I said, potentially dangerous. Only in that I do think it can be compared to the rationale used to justify genocide, or perhaps less extreme but still horrible, forced eugenics.
No no no. I did not mean to imply that the answer to child abuse is more abortions. I don't think increasing the number of abortions in the answer to anything. My point is that a woman knows, when her family is at it's max and she cannot feed any more kids, when she is and is not ready to be a good mother, whether or not she's emotionally capable of giving up a baby for adoption, and so on and so on. So when a woman decides to have an abortion it highly unlikely that she decided on a whim. People don't have abortions for fun. We as a society need to respect that a woman is capable of making the right choice for herself and her family. When we refuse to respect their right to make what they feel is the best most appropriate decision, we cause more suffering. That was my point.
(May 22, 2014 at 4:59 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:(May 22, 2014 at 4:34 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: I prefer to posit it this way:
Any parent who is considering getting an abortion because they don't want to raise a child is probably a person who shouldn't be forced to raise a child. For really obvious reasons.
There are exceptions, sure, but I know what it's like to be a child who was unplanned and unwanted, but kept anyway. My wife knows it even more than I do.
I agree no one should be forced to raise a child, but outside of rape, no one is forced to copulate either. So if you're against the idea of abortion as a means of birth control, and I am, and someone is irresponsible enough to get pregnant when they can't raise a child, I think adoption is preferable to abortion.
Well if you ever find yourself pregnant and not ready, I promise not to pressure you into having an abortion.