(May 23, 2014 at 3:49 am)Starvald Demelain Wrote: 1. Why not teach both? Teach both genders about consent, and situation avoidance/handling.
I agree.
Quote:I hear a lot of idealistic horseshit over the latter part of point one, that situation avoidance/handling shouldn't be necessary at all. Yeah, sure, in an ideal world no one would rape/murder/victimize anyone... but that's not the fucking world we live in goddammit. Ignoring reality with your fingers in you ears screaming "Neither my descendants or I should have to deal with this" solves nothing.
I think you're missing the point. It's not that potential victims shouldn't do things to protect themselves. Absolutely, they should. It's about the fact that, as a society, we tend to blame the victim for the rape because the victim didn't protect themselves. The point is that the fault lies solely with the rapist, and that the victim's failure to take certain precautions doesn't mean the victim shares the blame for the crime.
Quote:2. Since when has teaching determined criminals not to do something worked?
How can you tell when it does?