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The constitution & the bible
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RE: The constitution & the bible
(May 26, 2014 at 11:54 am)professor Wrote: The bible was printed and distributed at govt. expense in the history of the nation.
That action reflected the importance of the book.

That is simply false.


Quote:…because the lies about Congress and the Bible are the most popular of all the Christian nationalist history lies, I made this subject the very first chapter of the book. The chapter, titled "Congress and the Bible," debunks all the myths and lies regarding the printing, financing, distribution, or recommending of Bibles by our early congresses, most of which are variations of the same three stories -- two involving the Continental Congress, and one an act signed by James Madison. The chapter also includes some related lies that have, quite disturbingly, made it into the opinions of Supreme Court justices in a few First Amendment cases.

No, Mr. Beck, Congress Did Not Print a Bible for the Use of Schools


Chris Rodda: Liars For Jesus Wrote:Myths regarding the printing, financing, distribution, or recommending of Bibles by our early Congresses are among the most popular of all the religious right American history lies. Most are variations of the same three stories – two involving the Continental Congress, and one an act signed by James Madison.



The first is the story of the Continental Congress importing Bibles in 1777.
  • According to William Federer, in his book America’s God and Country Encyclopedia of Quotations: “Continental Congress September 11, 1777, approved and recommended to the people that 20,000 copies of The Holy Bible be imported from other sources. This was in response to the shortage of Bibles in America caused by the Revolutionary War interrupting trade with England. The Chaplain of Congress, Patrick Allison, brought the matter to the attention of Congress, who assigned it to a special Congressional Committee, which reported:

    • That the use of the Bible is so universal and its importance so great that your committee refers the above to the consideration of Congress, and if Congress shall not think it expedient to order the importation of types and paper, the Committee recommends that Congress will order the Committee of Commerce to import 20,000 Bibles from Holland, Scotland, or elsewhere, into the different parts of the States in the Union. Whereupon it was resolved accordingly to direct said Committee of Commerce to import 20,000 copies of the Bible.” ...
... William Federer’s version of the 1777 Bible story is typical of those found in the majority of religious right American history books. It tells half of the real story, includes a quote from an actual committee report, but ends with a fabricated resolution. The resolution is created to change the outcome of the story from Congress dropping the matter, which is what really happened, to Congress proceeding to import the Bibles …In addition to changing the outcome of the story, none of the religious right American history books fully explain why Congress was considering importing the Bibles in the first place. Most mention that the war with England caused a shortage of Bibles, which is true, but this is only half the story. Congress’s consideration of the matter had to do with the prevention of price gouging…



The second of the top three myths about Congress and the Bible involves the edition of the Bible begun by Robert Aitken in 1780, and completed in 1782.
  • According to William Federer, in his book America’s God and Country: “Robert Aitken (1734-1802), on January 21, 1781, as publisher of The Pennsylvania Magazine, petitioned Congress for permission to print Bibles, since there was a shortage of Bibles in America due to the Revolutionary War interrupting trade with England. The Continental Congress, September 10, 1782, in response to the shortage of Bibles, approved and recommended to the people that The Holy Bible be printed by Robert Aitken of Philadelphia. This first American Bible was to be ‘a neat edition of the Holy Scriptures for the use of schools’:

    • Whereupon, Resolved, That the United States in Congress assembled...recommend this edition of the Bible to the inhabitants of the United States, and hereby authorize [Robert Aitken] to publish this recommendation in any manner he shall think proper.”
Elsewhere in the same book, Federer includes a second version of the story, in which Aitken was “contracted” by Congress to print his Bibles.
  • According to Federer: “Congress of the Confederation September 10, 1782, in response to the need for Bibles which again arose, granted approval to print ‘a neat edition of the Holy Scriptures for the use of schools.’ The printing was contracted to Robert Aitken of Philadelphia, a bookseller and publisher of The Pennsylvania Magazine, who had previously petitioned Congress on January 21, 1781.”
There are many versions of this story floating around, all worded to mislead that Congress either requested the printing of the Bibles, granted Aitken permission to print them, contracted him to print them, paid for the printing, or had Bibles printed for the use of schools. Congress did none of these things. All they did was grant one of several requests made by Aitken by having their chaplains examine his work, and allowing him to publish their resolution stating that, based on the chaplains’ report, they were satisfied that his edition was accurate …The actual resolution is edited in various ways. The purpose of this editing is to omit that Congress also had a secular reason for recommending Aitken’s Bible, and, in most cases, to turn the resolution into a recommendation of the Bible itself, rather than a recommendation of the accuracy of Aitken’s work.



The third of the top three religious right myths about Congress and the Bible is that our early Congresses passed acts that financially aided Bible societies. The most popular example is an act signed by James Madison in 1813.
  • According to David Barton, in his book Original Intent: “...in 1812 [sic], President Madison signed a federal bill which economically aided a Bible Society in its goal of the mass distribution of the Bible.”
This act, entitled An Act for the relief of the Bible Society of Philadelphia, had absolutely nothing to do with aiding this society in its goal of distributing the Bible. It merely waived an import duty on one shipment of printing plates, determined by Congress to have been unfairly charged.

At the beginning of the War of 1812, an act was passed doubling all import duties to fund the war. The Bible Society of Philadelphia had ordered a shipment of printing plates from England in 1809. By the time their order reached England, their plates were manufactured, and the shipment arrived in America, it was 1812 and the new tariff schedule had gone into effect. Because this particular shipment was ordered three years before the war began, Congress granted the society’s request that it be taxed according to the pre-war tariff schedule.



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The constitution & the bible - by Sludgeman101 - May 25, 2014 at 7:59 pm
RE: The constitution & the bible - by Silver - May 25, 2014 at 8:10 pm
RE: The constitution & the bible - by archangle - May 25, 2014 at 8:15 pm
RE: The constitution & the bible - by Chas - May 26, 2014 at 10:49 am
RE: The constitution & the bible - by archangle - May 26, 2014 at 11:42 am
RE: The constitution & the bible - by Ryantology - May 26, 2014 at 12:20 pm
RE: The constitution & the bible - by archangle - May 26, 2014 at 7:37 pm
RE: The constitution & the bible - by Chas - May 26, 2014 at 8:35 pm
RE: The constitution & the bible - by Chas - May 26, 2014 at 1:57 pm
RE: The constitution & the bible - by professor - May 26, 2014 at 11:54 am
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