Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: February 5, 2025, 1:00 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Inclusive OR? Wtf?
#5
RE: Inclusive OR? Wtf?
(May 29, 2014 at 2:05 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(May 29, 2014 at 1:06 pm)Tea Earl Grey Hot Wrote: I'm studying propositional logic and I learned that "or" means "at least one is true". So you could have "a or b" and even if both a and b were each true then "a or b" is still true. In everyday language however "or" means only one of two things can be true, not both hence the reason we have the phrase "and/or" to mean "at least one is true".

Why not just keep the traditional exclusive meaning of "or" in propositional logic and then have another symbol for "and/or"? Seems simpler to me.

It greatly simplifies things to have two different operators for OR and XOR. Otherwise, the nonexclusive OR would have to be written as " if (a or b) or (a and b)". In my experience, the nonexclusive OR is much more commonly used.
In propositional logic, you actually have to write "(a or b) and not (a and b)" to mean exclusive or. There's no symbol for it.

Quote:“(P v Q)” claims that at least one part is true. So “I went to Paris or I went to Quebec” is true just if I went to one or both places. Our “v” symbolizes the inclusive sense of “or”; English also can use “or” in an exclusive sense, which claims that at least one part is true but not both. Both senses of “or” can translate into our symbolism:
• Inclusive “or”: A or B or both = (A v B)
• Exclusive “or”: A or B but not both = ((A v B) · ~(A · B))”

Excerpt From: Harry J. Gensler. “Introduction to Logic: Second Edition.” iBooks. https://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSt...=495640131
My ignore list




"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Inclusive OR? Wtf? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - May 29, 2014 at 1:06 pm
RE: Inclusive OR? Wtf? - by bennyboy - May 29, 2014 at 1:18 pm
RE: Inclusive OR? Wtf? - by hppavilion - June 4, 2014 at 4:50 am
RE: Inclusive OR? Wtf? - by MindForgedManacle - May 29, 2014 at 1:52 pm
RE: Inclusive OR? Wtf? - by Jackalope - May 29, 2014 at 2:05 pm
RE: Inclusive OR? Wtf? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - May 29, 2014 at 2:11 pm
RE: Inclusive OR? Wtf? - by Jackalope - May 29, 2014 at 2:17 pm
RE: Inclusive OR? Wtf? - by Angrboda - June 4, 2014 at 3:24 pm
RE: Inclusive OR? Wtf? - by bennyboy - June 6, 2014 at 4:06 am



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)