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New Athiest Needs Help
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New Athiest Needs Help
I read this I know it's Bull But Could you refute it?
Thanks.

If you know science there is no such thing as infinite... If I have an infinite number of Dollars and I subtract 5 is there still an inifite amount or is it infinite minus 5?

Astronomers and Cosmologists agree that the universe has a beginning and is not infinite in size.. As Aristotle said the infinite is potentialized never actualized

So since we have established that there is no such thing as infinite that means the universe had a beginning there are 4 logical answers for the beginning of the universe seen and unseen;

1) the universe was created via nothing
2) the universe created itself
3) the universe was created by something which was also created
4) the universe was created by something UNCREATED

The universe cannot be created via nothing because the definition of nothing means zip zero not an atom nothing.. Your mother cannot give birth to herself... Number 3 if the universe was created by something which was created than you are implying the universe seen and unseen has an infinite past and a logical fallacy and if you believe that you ignore science... That would mean the created creator would have had a created creator which would have had a created creator and so on... We know that infinite is an impossibility so there would have had to be an Originator... The One who begets not nor is begotten
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New Athiest Needs Help - by OhWord - May 29, 2014 at 3:54 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by The Valkyrie - May 29, 2014 at 3:57 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Violet - June 8, 2014 at 12:28 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Cato - May 29, 2014 at 3:58 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by OhWord - May 29, 2014 at 4:04 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Esquilax - May 29, 2014 at 4:09 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by OhWord - May 29, 2014 at 4:48 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by The Valkyrie - May 29, 2014 at 5:43 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Mystical - June 4, 2014 at 12:45 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Esquilax - June 4, 2014 at 1:37 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Losty - June 4, 2014 at 1:48 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by OhWord - June 4, 2014 at 1:51 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Losty - June 4, 2014 at 1:54 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by OhWord - June 4, 2014 at 2:10 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Losty - June 4, 2014 at 2:12 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by OhWord - June 4, 2014 at 2:23 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Losty - June 4, 2014 at 2:35 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Violet - June 8, 2014 at 2:09 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by ronedee - June 15, 2014 at 4:08 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 15, 2014 at 4:10 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by ronedee - June 15, 2014 at 4:12 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 15, 2014 at 4:19 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Jenny A - June 15, 2014 at 7:43 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 15, 2014 at 7:50 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Esquilax - June 15, 2014 at 4:17 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by ronedee - June 15, 2014 at 4:32 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Esquilax - June 15, 2014 at 4:36 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by ronedee - June 15, 2014 at 4:48 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Esquilax - June 15, 2014 at 4:54 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by ronedee - June 15, 2014 at 5:00 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 15, 2014 at 5:04 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Esquilax - June 15, 2014 at 5:13 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Brakeman - June 15, 2014 at 9:52 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by ThomM - June 15, 2014 at 6:48 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Thumpalumpacus - June 15, 2014 at 7:54 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Ravenshire - June 16, 2014 at 8:50 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Crossless1 - May 29, 2014 at 4:30 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Mister Agenda - May 29, 2014 at 4:34 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Jackalope - June 4, 2014 at 12:16 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Faith No More - May 29, 2014 at 4:42 pm
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RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by KichigaiNeko - May 29, 2014 at 8:25 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Brakeman - May 29, 2014 at 8:52 pm
New Athiest Needs Help - by Rampant.A.I. - May 29, 2014 at 9:02 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 29, 2014 at 10:44 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Brakeman - June 1, 2014 at 9:02 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Violet - June 8, 2014 at 1:33 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 8, 2014 at 8:38 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Mudhammam - June 8, 2014 at 10:31 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 8, 2014 at 11:31 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 9, 2014 at 1:41 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Mudhammam - June 9, 2014 at 3:04 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Thumpalumpacus - June 11, 2014 at 6:34 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by RobbyPants - May 30, 2014 at 10:42 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by CherishSin - May 30, 2014 at 11:33 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by RobbyPants - May 30, 2014 at 11:47 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by ThomM - June 1, 2014 at 7:21 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 1, 2014 at 10:48 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by OhWord - June 2, 2014 at 11:51 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 3, 2014 at 10:34 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Losty - June 4, 2014 at 12:23 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 4, 2014 at 12:27 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 4, 2014 at 10:42 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 4, 2014 at 1:17 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 4, 2014 at 9:01 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 4, 2014 at 9:10 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 4, 2014 at 9:23 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 4, 2014 at 9:30 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 4, 2014 at 9:38 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Ksa - June 4, 2014 at 9:40 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 4, 2014 at 9:42 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 4, 2014 at 9:32 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Ksa - June 4, 2014 at 9:35 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 4, 2014 at 9:46 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Ksa - June 4, 2014 at 9:52 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 4, 2014 at 10:22 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 4, 2014 at 10:30 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 4, 2014 at 10:37 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Ksa - June 5, 2014 at 8:22 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 6, 2014 at 12:53 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 6, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 4, 2014 at 10:00 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Faith No More - June 4, 2014 at 9:35 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by The Valkyrie - June 4, 2014 at 9:11 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Ksa - June 4, 2014 at 9:15 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by ThomM - June 6, 2014 at 6:59 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 7, 2014 at 12:11 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Losty - June 3, 2014 at 12:08 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Ksa - June 4, 2014 at 9:08 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Ksa - June 4, 2014 at 9:26 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Lek - June 4, 2014 at 9:32 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Ksa - June 4, 2014 at 9:33 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Ravenshire - June 15, 2014 at 8:11 pm
New Athiest Needs Help - by Rampant.A.I. - June 4, 2014 at 10:06 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Ksa - June 4, 2014 at 10:14 pm
New Athiest Needs Help - by Rampant.A.I. - June 4, 2014 at 10:18 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by MysticKnight - June 6, 2014 at 7:28 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Rampant.A.I. - June 6, 2014 at 7:36 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by MysticKnight - June 6, 2014 at 8:15 pm
New Athiest Needs Help - by Rampant.A.I. - June 6, 2014 at 8:28 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 7, 2014 at 12:48 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Brian37 - June 7, 2014 at 12:54 pm
New Athiest Needs Help - by Rampant.A.I. - June 7, 2014 at 4:04 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by ska88 - June 8, 2014 at 2:03 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 8, 2014 at 2:04 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Rampant.A.I. - June 11, 2014 at 6:08 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 14, 2014 at 7:25 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Mr Greene - June 8, 2014 at 9:10 am
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Violet - June 9, 2014 at 2:54 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Mr Greene - June 9, 2014 at 8:40 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Jenny A - June 15, 2014 at 4:35 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Mystical - June 15, 2014 at 6:58 pm
RE: New Athiest Needs Help - by Grandizer - June 15, 2014 at 7:18 pm

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