RE: Atheist persecution in america
May 29, 2014 at 8:26 pm
(This post was last modified: May 29, 2014 at 8:29 pm by MindForgedManacle.)
(May 29, 2014 at 1:38 pm)Cato Wrote: I am perfectly fine with this until the pious attempt to use the power of the state to control my behavior based solely on their religious sensitivities. Making it illegal for everybody to purchase alcohol on Sunday is an example.
Oh I agree there. I never got that myself; it's moronic. Get waisted every other day of the week, just not Sunday. ...Makes sense? :p
(May 29, 2014 at 4:35 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: I'm talking about this I'm not advocating that you randomly start calling people out that's stupid but if your rights are being threatened by this assholes you must take your stand. If you don't say anything you automatically agree.
If that's what you meant, apologies. It's not what you seemed to say in your first post.
Quote:MindForgedManacles: Teaching evolution at class seemly does not work, respectfully talking to them does not work ether are there any other options left? The only thing that could work is to advocate a secular state or even more extremist standards like state atheism. This could make some progress,but how can we reach this goal?
That's bollocks. Okay, the evolution issue is more an issue of showing up moronic clowns who have religious prominence who fool their unwitting followers.
School-wise, our educational system has been failing us for quite some time. On the topic of evolution specifically, I cannot remember ever getting a clear explanation from my biology teacher in freshman year of high school as to what exactlt evolution was and the evidence that lead to its acceptance as the best explanation of the available evidence as to the diversity of life. So better instruction on these topics (and the instilling on students the meaning of certain terms in the scientific domain like "theory") would go a long way.
As someone who's deconversion was partly due to not being constantly called a moron by an agnostic, I disagree that respectful dialogue cannot work. Does it guarantee a deconversion? Hell no, but I hardly think that should be our goal.
(May 29, 2014 at 6:49 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote: I don't believe you.. I don't believe you would . I believe you would be begging for the chance to become a muslim.
If I cornered you, had a sledge hammer and threatened to destroy your nuts unless you did the Hokey-Pokey with Bruce Springsteen and I, I bet you'd be doing that fucking Hokey-Pokey.
...Ya see? I can make idiotic non sequiturs too. Go fuck yourself, and while you're at it, try using your brain sometime.
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