And if you are wrong , eternity is a long time.

[Esquilax]

I'm not someone prone to taking unusual risks ;but for me, deciding to believe and accept theistic teachings, which may have beneficial eternal consequences for the acceptee; or to deny these teachings ,which may only offer some vain ,arbitrary and short lived pleasures ,but could lead to an eternity of pain,and misery, is an easy decision to make.

... Which is why you're a member of every religion, including an infinite number of mutually exclusive, tiny variants, plus every possible belief system that there could ever be, even ones that don't exist as things people believe, so you don't risk any eternal hell at all, right?

I mean, that is something you do, yeah? If you don't, you've rather tipped your hand regarding the idiotic presuppositions you've made before you even begun your argument, and those invalidate the premise you started with, so...

Hey, either you're constantly vibrating under the weight of all the actions you have to perform and not perform at the same time in order to safeguard yourself against every conceivable hell, or you're just fucking wrong, and kind of an asshole for framing your Wager like this!

I'm not a gambler ,but the cost benefit ratio is on the side of the believer
who risks nothing but gives up disease ,alcoholism, crime and early death
and could pssibly gain eternal life in a state of bliss.

Okay, this is interesting: so if I go to a hospital I'll find no christians there as patients? I mean, they've given up disease, so I guess that means they never get sick, right? Or do they get sick, in which case, what the hell does it mean to "give up" disease?

Ever gotten a cold, Artur?

If ,you're wrong ,all you gain is some guilty pleasures and lose an eternity.

Except if god is one of the infinite variety of gods that could potentially reward me for any number of things that I do in life, and not the insipid god you believe in, which is something you haven't even attempted to demonstrate.

If I'm wrong and the god that exists is the god that rewards only people who sometimes wear red hoodies, I'm safe right now! Will you be saved during the red-hoodie end times, Artur? Or will you remain mired in the perversions and crime inherent to those who wear other colors?

If I'm right I give up vice and crime and perversions but gain an eternity .
its a no brainer ,except for those with no brains

I'll ignore the "if you don't agree with me, you're dumb!" because that just shows you're a fucking asshole, but I will say: hello, I'm an atheist. I've never gotten so much as a parking ticket, I don't drink or do drugs, and I'm in a committed relationship with a member of the opposite sex who also frequents this forum.

What were you saying about atheists and crime, and other bullshit? You gonna admit you're wrong and apologize?