Science was once a child of the church.

[mickiel]

What has theism ever brought to the table? Nothing but inanities, platitudes, silly rituals, and loads of intangible nonsense. No experiments, no data, no verifiable results, nothing of substance whatsoever. No matter which religion. All worthless.

Meanwhile, our standard of living, food sources, travel , medicine, dentistry, communication; is the result of science. The next time you have need a root canal, see how much Jeebus does for you. And none of this "he works through the dentist's hands!" bullshit. Weak.

If all religious thought were to be wiped from humanity's experience, who would even notice?

The vast majority of scientists today are non-believers - what does that tell you? The fact scientists in the past might have been believers, (when not believing would get you thrown in jail, property confiscated or worse) means nothing. Does Christianity help the pro-billiard player sink that tricky shot? Does Islam help a DBA tune a database query? Does the Mormon angel Moroni help with that electrical wiring? Nope, nope and nope.

Nor does any religion assist the scientist in their work. Science informs religion how things are, not the other way around. Religions must lie, cheat and steal to avoid being made the fool and it isn't working for them. Poor babies!

I don't like religion either, but I don't see those things disappearing if the entire world were atheist.

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I fail to see the need to curse at my guest on thread, so you must excuse me if I do not respond using such disrespectful language. There is no need for it. I think it ruins debate and the human language. I don't understand the constant use of it here; maybe its an atheist thing?

Well no, it could not be that, because many Christians I debate use the same tactics. I don't like it when they do it either. It spoils a conversation in my view; its rude.

Maybe I am old fashion, and this is a new wave thingy.

Swearing is fucking brilliant.

Stop using your "offence" at the language used to deflect from the points being made. I almost looks like you're deliberately avoiding answering some very good points.

All of the above is meant with no offence my friend, I'd suggest maybe not being such a timid little flower.

I don't like it. I don't like being sweared at either. If that is a requirement here for membership, then withdraw mine.

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OP you do realize there's a difference between swearing and swearing at someone. Right?

I don't do either when I have speaks with people; I consider it rude.