(June 7, 2014 at 10:59 am)Godschild Wrote:(June 7, 2014 at 9:47 am)Brian37 Wrote: No shit. As much as I value what the allies did in WW2, for some stupid fucking reason, especially with republicans, we are still stuck on the high of that win, forgetting that technology has changed and the nature of war itself has changed, and we have gotten stuck in quagmires ever since.
It is not as simple as putting boots on the ground anymore.
The nature that has change is we have to sanitize war now, even though in WWII we tried to spare civilians it wasn't our first responsibility, civilian deaths were accepted as part of the war, the goal was to end the war and the horrors it brings quickly. To sanitize war is a contradiction of actions.
GC
Who the fuck is claiming you can sanitize war, not me. I am saying you look at all the wars after WW2 America has gotten involved in, and they have been stalemates at best and failures.
I do think where we have seen success is when we have gained wider support and only acted as support. I am simply not for Dirty Harry policies of shoot first and ask questions later.
Even with Afghanistan, if we had simply done what we finally did in getting Bin Laden with special forces, instead of invading the entire country and getting stuck there, would have save lives and a shitload of money.
IF IF IF IF IF IF we put troops on the ground in the future again, we need to have a plan going in and getting out. Instead of what we have seen since WW2 in simply going in with no plan.
War is hell? NO SHIT, thanks for the update.
