Science was once a child of the church.

[mickiel]

In my view, intelligent design is not nonsense, its intelligent. This world was not designed by an idiot, nor did it spawn from the idiotic view of a self creating, self designing and self generating nebulous nothing.

The world wasn't designed at all. It's the result of a cascading series of physical phenomena happening one after the other, scaffolding itself up to complexity from simpler beginnings in line with consistent laws of physics. No matter the amount of emotionally charged rhetoric you inject into that description in order to horrify the prideful nature of theists, you won't change the fact that all of this comes not out of design, but out of simple consequences, unconscious and unguided.

Yea, so we just got insanely lucky , and atheist are spreading the story of mammoth luck like religion spreads its story of insane hell.

Both pimping the incredible.

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Declining membership has nothing to do with members gained. Two different things.

If you gain five dollars ($5) and have ten dollars ($10) in your possession, for a total of fifteen dollars ($15), then I take seven dollars ($7) from you, how much did you gain? The answer is "nothing". In fact, you lost two dollars ($2), based on what you had prior to receiving the five dollars ($5).

Well if I use your formula, both atheist and religion are declining. May have helped if religion went after more men, and atheism had more than just mostly white men.