(June 9, 2014 at 1:42 pm)Tonus Wrote:(June 9, 2014 at 1:37 pm)mickiel Wrote: THATS what I been screaming, it DID BIRTH IT!I think you're missing the point: even with the considerable bias that would have come from being a god-fearing supporter of the church, scientists started us down the road that would overturn those closely-held beliefs. Even with the advantage that would come from being able to influence their work, the church couldn't stop science from pushing its teachings aside once it got a head of steam.
I think that is true, I agree with that. But it cannot be ignored that science was HEAVILY influence by the church, look at these Christian scientist, ( some theologians), who actually FATHERED their disciplines in science; 17 founding fathers of science were raised and FATHERED by the church;
http://www.forumgarden.com/forums/genera...l-113.html
