(June 9, 2014 at 4:50 pm)mickiel Wrote:(June 9, 2014 at 4:46 pm)Tonus Wrote: No, I think science is as subject to human error and corruption as anything else. But it has the advantage of using a method that can help us to find and eliminate that corruption and continue to develop our knowledge and understanding of the world and the universe around us.
There is no advantage in science, it will not escape the same results as any group of humans in history has shown.
(June 9, 2014 at 3:41 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: So you think children precede their parents? Because, if not, your claim that science was once a child of the church is completely devoid of meaning. And if so, you're an idiot.
If you can admit it was a stupid claim to make, you can get on with your life a wiser man. We've all said things we didn't really think through, there's no shame in it. Around here, being able to admit when you're wrong does wonders for one's credibility.
The Church can't have birthed something that existed before it did. Why on earth would you scream something so profoundly stupid?
It birthed 17 different new sciences and their founding fathers, whose names I have listed, being able to see that may do wonders for you're fault finding needs.
Science isn't a group.
Science is a discipline, a way of gaining knowledge.
THere are always those who will try to corrupt it or use it for nefarious purposes, just as there are those who have and will use religion the same way.
The difference is that science has helped humanity progress.
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
"You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"