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[ShaMan]

What I'm asking is that theists quit insisting that their "knowledge" is valid, and instead, let that knowledge demonstrate itself.

And all I am saying is that they can demonstrate it to one another (using "faith", just as atheists can demonstrate it to one another using "logic").

You can insist the fruit is there, but until we have something beyond your insistence, we're left to conclude that your "tree" cannot produce.

(BOLD added by me)

Let it be restated that... "One can insist the fruit is there, but until we have something beyond one's insistence, we're left to conclude that one's "tree" cannot produce.

I hold no such theistic beliefs, and my philosophical premise agrees with your conclusion.

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and they can demonstrate faith on theirs

Can they though? An actual demonstration?

Yes! On their set - that's my point.

Also, your avi is freaky lol

Yeah, a little