RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 9, 2014 at 9:04 pm
(This post was last modified: June 9, 2014 at 9:06 pm by mickiel.)
(June 9, 2014 at 7:56 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(June 8, 2014 at 8:58 pm)mickiel Wrote: I am content with reading Julian Jaynes work on consciousness; I learn a lot from him.
If your views cannot withstand testing, they're probably not worth holding. And if you test your views and find them wanting, you have the opportunity to refine them in accordance with a tighter model of reality.
Being satisfied with any one source in such a complex and uncertain quesiton as conscousness is not the brightest thing I could think of doing. Of course, I don't have a dogma to which I must adhere, either. I'm sure that could have an effect on one's willingness to explore new avenues of knowledge, don't you agree?
Sure I agree, Jaynes work on consciousness is my favorite; its a hard read because he is an intellectual and writes like one. But its the only work I would recommend. Not the only I have studied.
(June 8, 2014 at 9:11 pm)mickiel Wrote: Why would god want any wherelse inhabitable, when his focus is on us here on earth?
What makes you think you know the mind of your putative god?
But, to answer your question: Assuming for the sake of discussion your god's existence, you clearly haven't considered the possibility that he might love living things so much that humankind is not his only creation.
Humanity is not his only creation, just the only in this reality that lives in flesh , besides animals
(June 8, 2014 at 9:11 pm)mickiel Wrote: You miss another evidence of him right there. If life is random chance, how come no other area in this vastness got so lucky?
Since life is not due to random chance, I will disregard this question, for having a flawed premise.
But, what makes you think that there are no other sentient life-forms on other planets?
Because the universe is a prototype of what is being prepared for us; for all the humans who have ever lived. god will revamp the entire universe and beyond into a spiritual universe, even larger than its physical prototype. Creating dazzling planets and multi universes , all for us; and the trillions of beings he has already created.
(June 9, 2014 at 8:59 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:(June 9, 2014 at 7:28 pm)mickiel Wrote: Animals are not conscious, they are instinctly aware.
Is this one of your "facts" or "evidence"? What's your source for this "fact"?
How are you defining consciousness? Self-awareness? The ability to empathize? Reason?
My source is the animals themselves, I have NEVER seen an animal in 59 years of living that can reason with me, talk to me, tell me how to get to Texas, or explain to me why I am black.
