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Argument #3: Mutations
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RE: Argument #3: Mutations
It's quite true that mutations that seem to confer no immediate benefit (or might even be deleterious) can be passed down from generation to generation if they do not prevent the population from breeding. In time a 'bad' mutation may prove useful if there is a change in the organism's surroundings. A fish that develops the ability to breath air may be at a disadvantage at first (having to surface to breathe and at risk of drowning), but it may be the only survivor when the lake dries up or when larger, lake-bound predators appear and the land becomes the safer option.

The fact that so many mutations are either useless or harmful would not speak to an intelligent designer, but fits within the framework of evolutionary theory and the evidence that has been found so far. A great many of the creatures which have existed have long since gone extinct, while some have continued to breed and survive for millions of years, sometimes with seemingly few changes (sharks, for example). This apparent randomness speaks more towards a natural process and not an "intelligent" one.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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Argument #3: Mutations - by Revelation777 - June 10, 2014 at 11:35 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by The Valkyrie - June 10, 2014 at 11:37 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Crossless1 - June 10, 2014 at 11:41 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Revelation777 - June 10, 2014 at 11:42 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Crossless1 - June 10, 2014 at 11:45 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Anomalocaris - June 11, 2014 at 12:51 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Cato - June 11, 2014 at 1:44 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Jackalope - June 10, 2014 at 11:52 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Revelation777 - June 11, 2014 at 12:29 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Jackalope - June 11, 2014 at 12:30 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Jackalope - June 11, 2014 at 12:43 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by max-greece - June 11, 2014 at 12:51 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Esquilax - June 11, 2014 at 1:58 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Mister Agenda - June 11, 2014 at 2:36 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Revelation777 - June 11, 2014 at 10:31 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Grandizer - June 11, 2014 at 10:56 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Ravenshire - June 11, 2014 at 10:59 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Esquilax - June 11, 2014 at 11:52 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by max-greece - June 12, 2014 at 2:54 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Mister Agenda - June 12, 2014 at 11:02 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by JuliaL - June 14, 2014 at 11:22 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Ravenshire - July 11, 2014 at 5:14 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Revelation777 - July 11, 2014 at 11:22 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by FatAndFaithless - July 11, 2014 at 11:26 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Esquilax - July 11, 2014 at 11:50 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Jackalope - July 11, 2014 at 11:53 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Ravenshire - July 12, 2014 at 12:08 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Jackalope - June 10, 2014 at 11:56 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Revelation777 - June 11, 2014 at 12:14 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Jackalope - June 11, 2014 at 12:20 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Sinbad - June 11, 2014 at 6:53 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by SteelCurtain - June 10, 2014 at 11:57 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by SteelCurtain - June 11, 2014 at 12:16 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Ravenshire - June 11, 2014 at 12:46 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Jackalope - June 11, 2014 at 12:50 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Minimalist - June 11, 2014 at 12:56 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Anomalocaris - June 11, 2014 at 1:00 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Confused Ape - June 11, 2014 at 5:57 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Anomalocaris - June 11, 2014 at 9:04 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Grandizer - June 11, 2014 at 1:21 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by pocaracas - June 11, 2014 at 3:44 am
Argument #3: Mutations - by Rampant.A.I. - June 11, 2014 at 4:51 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Fidel_Castronaut - June 11, 2014 at 5:19 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Tonus - June 11, 2014 at 5:46 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Bad Wolf - June 11, 2014 at 8:47 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Bob Kelso - June 11, 2014 at 10:53 am
Argument #3: Mutations - by Rampant.A.I. - June 11, 2014 at 11:00 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Whateverist - June 11, 2014 at 11:08 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Cato - June 11, 2014 at 11:09 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by LostLocke - June 11, 2014 at 11:09 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Angrboda - June 11, 2014 at 11:22 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by RobbyPants - June 11, 2014 at 12:13 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by ThePinsir - June 11, 2014 at 12:32 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by JesusHChrist - June 11, 2014 at 1:15 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Mister Agenda - June 11, 2014 at 1:15 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Jackalope - June 11, 2014 at 10:49 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by SteelCurtain - June 11, 2014 at 10:57 pm
Argument #3: Mutations - by Rampant.A.I. - June 12, 2014 at 1:12 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by naturestubbs1 - June 12, 2014 at 1:49 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by naturestubbs1 - June 14, 2014 at 12:32 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Fidel_Castronaut - June 12, 2014 at 2:52 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by The Grand Nudger - June 12, 2014 at 3:06 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Tonus - June 12, 2014 at 8:13 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Revelation777 - June 14, 2014 at 9:34 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Esquilax - June 14, 2014 at 9:50 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by RobbyPants - June 16, 2014 at 2:06 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Anomalocaris - June 16, 2014 at 2:09 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Cato - July 11, 2014 at 9:46 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Cyberman - June 14, 2014 at 10:43 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Anomalocaris - June 14, 2014 at 10:58 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Esquilax - June 14, 2014 at 11:11 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by SteelCurtain - June 14, 2014 at 12:30 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by JuliaL - June 14, 2014 at 12:39 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Mister Agenda - June 14, 2014 at 1:58 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by FreeTony - June 14, 2014 at 4:28 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 16, 2014 at 1:11 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Cyberman - June 16, 2014 at 7:12 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 16, 2014 at 7:43 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Angrboda - June 16, 2014 at 8:10 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by popeyespappy - June 16, 2014 at 9:16 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Anomalocaris - June 17, 2014 at 11:30 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Tonus - June 16, 2014 at 8:12 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by SteelCurtain - June 16, 2014 at 9:24 pm
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by ignoramus - June 17, 2014 at 4:34 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Cyberman - June 17, 2014 at 5:00 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Clueless Morgan - June 17, 2014 at 11:13 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by LastPoet - June 17, 2014 at 11:16 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by pocaracas - June 17, 2014 at 11:24 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by popeyespappy - June 17, 2014 at 12:36 pm
Mutations, Mutations, Mutations - by Revelation777 - July 11, 2014 at 9:28 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Esquilax - July 11, 2014 at 9:35 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by FatAndFaithless - July 11, 2014 at 10:17 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Angrboda - July 11, 2014 at 10:46 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Bad Wolf - July 11, 2014 at 9:34 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by pocaracas - July 11, 2014 at 10:59 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by Mister Agenda - July 11, 2014 at 11:22 am
RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by The Grand Nudger - July 11, 2014 at 5:03 pm
Re: RE: Argument #3: Mutations - by JesusHChrist - July 12, 2014 at 12:01 am



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