(June 12, 2014 at 10:12 am)Irrational Wrote: No need to be touchy. It has not been established that, in general, children are difficult because of their parents.
Remember that Thumpalumpacus was quoting another member complaining about children being troublesome. Antisocial children are just a small subset of these troublesome children anyway.
And even if it is a small percentage of children that are temperamentally difficult, a logical error is being committed by concluding that, therefore, it must be a big enough percentage that parents cause their children to be difficult or "fucked up". Maybe it's also a small percentage, thereby not constituting what you are referring to as "average" or "general".
Now we're talking. I was not being touchy; I simply wanted to get beyond the needless clarification of terms bullshit.
Setting aside genetic contribution, I can agree that parents cannot be solely accountable for behavior issues. Having been a child myself, having raised children, and observing others I think I can safely say that a parent's influence wanes as a child ages. Non-parental authority figures, peers, and societal inputs (books, tv, movies, music, internet, etc.) also have a significant impact on behavioral development. I don't think it's a stretch to say that most of us can think of one 'fucked up' person where it would be impossible to reasonably assign blame to the parents.
