Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: August 12, 2025, 5:15 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Darwin Fish out of water
#22
RE: Darwin Fish out of water
(June 12, 2014 at 2:05 am)YaAli21 Wrote: I think you need to pick up a book on evolution. I have studied human behaviour and evolution to a great degree. If evolution hard wired morality into humans and not just the capabilities of survival (which our moral choices are based on according to you) why do think societies differ in right and wrong across, history, land, cultures, countries and time? Shouldn't they be the same? I challenge you to find me one gene that encodes some aspect of morality to such a degree that indicates innate morals. Atheists have no moral compass, it's all subjective to them. What is right to one person can be different for another. It's all subjective. Atheists are in no position to judge morality. I would go as far to say, that if I was an atheist I would be a hypocrite if I opposed the Rwanda genocide.
No surprise, but your views on (human) morality are determined by your (I presume) status as human. Moral codes across societies not in contact are not expected to be identical. They change over time and under environmental pressures. Still, you will find there are common taboos against murder, incest, theft which result in more stable, and therefore more likely to be observed, societies. Go google 'memetics' and 'memeplex.'
Try as hard as you can to consider morality which (as islamic you probably consider as objective, universal and absolute) from anothers perspective. In the following example case, please consider the perspective of the mother bear. She will kill you if you appear to be a threat to her cub. Is this wrong from your perspective? Probably. More importantly, is it wrong from the perspective of the she bear? Probably not.
May I preempt what I assume will be your defense that she is acting from instinct not morality. Such a claim is a bald assertion as you are not privy to her internal state.
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat? Huh
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Darwin Fish out of water - by naturestubbs1 - June 9, 2014 at 9:30 pm
RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by Napoléon - June 9, 2014 at 9:33 pm
RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by The Valkyrie - June 9, 2014 at 9:33 pm
RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by naturestubbs1 - June 11, 2014 at 4:58 pm
RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by SteelCurtain - June 9, 2014 at 10:55 pm
RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by Chard - June 10, 2014 at 12:05 am
RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by rexbeccarox - June 10, 2014 at 12:27 am
RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by KichigaiNeko - June 10, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by Cyberman - June 10, 2014 at 11:19 pm
RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by naturestubbs1 - June 11, 2014 at 4:46 pm
RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by ThePinsir - June 11, 2014 at 4:56 pm
RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by naturestubbs1 - June 12, 2014 at 2:29 am
RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by YaAli21 - June 11, 2014 at 5:52 pm
RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by Napoléon - June 11, 2014 at 9:19 pm
RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by Cyberman - June 11, 2014 at 7:15 pm
Re: RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by YaAli21 - June 11, 2014 at 9:10 pm
RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by Cyberman - June 12, 2014 at 8:50 am
RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by naturestubbs1 - June 15, 2014 at 10:18 am
Re: RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by YaAli21 - June 11, 2014 at 9:29 pm
RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by naturestubbs1 - June 12, 2014 at 1:30 am
Re: RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by YaAli21 - June 12, 2014 at 2:05 am
RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by JuliaL - June 12, 2014 at 1:47 pm
RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by naturestubbs1 - June 13, 2014 at 11:56 pm
RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by Losty - June 12, 2014 at 1:12 pm
RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by pocaracas - June 15, 2014 at 1:10 pm
RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by naturestubbs1 - June 15, 2014 at 6:56 pm
RE: Darwin Fish out of water - by LastPoet - June 15, 2014 at 3:35 pm



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)