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(June 12, 2014 at 10:29 am)muslimatheism Wrote:
(June 12, 2014 at 10:27 am)SteelCurtain Wrote:


What I mean that almost all religions existed today is from the same source, same prophets, same history and corroborates in many aspects. For example Judaism, Christianity and Islam. I believe these three books; ie. Torah, Bible and Quran is one book. The revelations are a continuing process from Moses, to Jesus, to Muhammad, and it is an episodes which ends with the Quran (The Final Testament). These three books constitute the whole Quran. This is equally true from the Quran.

Other religions basically rooted from Hinduism, and it is about the laws of nature. This is equally true from the Quran, and which the Quran mentioned it as the Sunnatullah. To understand the "Sunnatullah" is the main objective of all the rules in the Quran. The Quran is a guide for mankind to study the laws of nature, and apply it in their lives.
Therefore, I am studying all and need to understand all religions.

I am interested in where these ideas come from. You probably know better than me, I have not read very much of the Quran. What about the Quran, Torah, and Bible lead you to believe that they are sequels to each other, or in some way related in a way other than that they are monotheistic? (If you could call Christianity monotheism, the American fundamentalist version of God is a three-headed monster...)

(June 12, 2014 at 10:29 am)muslimatheism Wrote:
(June 12, 2014 at 10:27 am)SteelCurtain Wrote:


Absolute justice, ie. the laws of nature. . how to balance and achieve justice in different kinds of situation , so that we cause no harm to ourselves and cause no harm to others, the society as a whole. Balance is not about right or wrong, but about equal existence of right and wrong. It is more like the Yin and Yang, both are needed. . and it is "life".

I cannot bring myself to read that whole thing... (sorry, but it's like 400 pages long), but the main quote is this:

"...And He forbids indecency, and manifest evil, and
wrongful transgression. He admonishes you, so that
you may take heed. "
(Surah al-Nahl; Ch.16: V.91)

Haven't we come up with a more comprehensive, civilized, and most importantly more specific method of functioning as a society? This seems, at the surface, to be a perfectly acceptable idea. But when you add the fears associated with religion, you get interpretation. Interpretation is where terrible things happen. When we use ideas like "He forbids indecency," that leads scared men to make up ridiculous laws that diminish the humanity of individuals.

(June 12, 2014 at 10:29 am)muslimatheism Wrote:
(June 12, 2014 at 10:27 am)SteelCurtain Wrote:


No. . but I'm still studying about the word "solat" in the Quran. I believe more than 95% of its actual meaning is not referring to the ritual prayer. People have corrupted the translation and true meanings. The word is referring to the "system of balance and justice". In facts, many rituals in Islam are fake and not from the Quran.
What does this word "solat" mean, exactly? And what other rituals from the Quran do you feel are fake, and why?

(June 12, 2014 at 10:29 am)muslimatheism Wrote:
(June 12, 2014 at 10:27 am)SteelCurtain Wrote:


Why do we need Sharia Law when man made laws can achieve balance and justice ? The man made law is the Sharia Law.

This is just my personal opinion.

I couldn't agree more.
I really hope you stick around. You bring a fresh perspective that would be a fantastic addition to our community.
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Hello - by Muslim Atheism - June 11, 2014 at 4:17 am
RE: Hello - by Fidel_Castronaut - June 11, 2014 at 4:18 am
RE: Hello - by Muslim Atheism - June 11, 2014 at 4:20 am
RE: Hello - by Fidel_Castronaut - June 11, 2014 at 4:49 am
RE: Hello - by Jackalope - June 11, 2014 at 1:32 pm
RE: Hello - by Losty - June 11, 2014 at 4:32 am
RE: Hello - by Muslim Atheism - June 11, 2014 at 4:39 am
RE: Hello - by Losty - June 11, 2014 at 4:47 am
RE: Hello - by Muslim Atheism - June 11, 2014 at 4:50 am
RE: Hello - by Ravenshire - June 11, 2014 at 10:18 pm
RE: Hello - by Muslim Atheism - June 12, 2014 at 10:06 am
RE: Hello - by rexbeccarox - June 11, 2014 at 4:53 am
RE: Hello - by Muslim Atheism - June 11, 2014 at 4:58 am
RE: Hello - by rexbeccarox - June 11, 2014 at 5:10 am
RE: Hello - by Muslim Atheism - June 11, 2014 at 5:14 am
RE: Hello - by rexbeccarox - June 11, 2014 at 5:19 am
RE: Hello - by Losty - June 11, 2014 at 5:00 am
RE: Hello - by pocaracas - June 11, 2014 at 4:54 am
RE: Hello - by Muslim Atheism - June 11, 2014 at 5:01 am
RE: Hello - by pocaracas - June 11, 2014 at 5:09 am
Hello - by Rampant.A.I. - June 11, 2014 at 5:03 am
RE: Hello - by Muslim Atheism - June 11, 2014 at 5:08 am
RE: Hello - by Ben Davis - June 11, 2014 at 5:19 am
RE: Hello - by Muslim Atheism - June 11, 2014 at 5:23 am
RE: Hello - by rexbeccarox - June 11, 2014 at 1:15 pm
RE: Hello - by Napoléon - June 11, 2014 at 1:24 pm
RE: Hello - by Muslim Atheism - June 11, 2014 at 3:10 pm
RE: Hello - by JesusHChrist - June 11, 2014 at 3:19 pm
RE: Hello - by Muslim Atheism - June 11, 2014 at 3:57 pm
RE: Hello - by Losty - June 11, 2014 at 4:19 pm
RE: Hello - by JesusHChrist - June 11, 2014 at 4:25 pm
RE: Hello - by rexbeccarox - June 11, 2014 at 3:19 pm
RE: Hello - by Confused Ape - June 11, 2014 at 4:03 pm
RE: Hello - by Muslim Atheism - June 11, 2014 at 4:04 pm
RE: Hello - by KichigaiNeko - June 11, 2014 at 7:47 pm
RE: Hello - by Muslim Atheism - June 12, 2014 at 10:29 am
RE: Hello - by SteelCurtain - June 12, 2014 at 9:30 pm
RE: Hello - by Mystical - June 11, 2014 at 7:54 pm
RE: Hello - by SteelCurtain - June 11, 2014 at 10:41 pm
RE: Hello - by SteelCurtain - June 12, 2014 at 10:27 am
RE: Hello - by SteelCurtain - June 12, 2014 at 10:48 am
RE: Hello - by Muslim Atheism - June 12, 2014 at 10:54 am
RE: Hello - by Mystical - June 12, 2014 at 8:57 pm
RE: Hello - by Muslim Atheism - June 13, 2014 at 2:40 am

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