(June 15, 2014 at 11:37 pm)Jenny A Wrote: The Judeo-Christian god, especially the Christian one seems to be against many forms of harmless human enjoyment---sex being at the top of the list of things we oughtn't enjoy.
A few years ago I had the same sad but hilarious conversation with my mother twice. She called to warn me that men lose some sexual function as they get older (my step-father was about 75 at the time).
Carefully, and round about, with many euphemisms, she explains that after a certain age men don't get hard unless you touch "it". And that it's not really so bad, kinda nice, once you get used to it. (Clearly oral sex is out of the question)---And suddenly I felt sorry for my poor detached iceberg of a father.
Why is religious morality so bound up in sex? Unwanted pregnancy I get. Stifling pleasure I don't.
Modern Christians and Muslims have added wine and who knows what else to the bad list.
Sorry - but you are wrong with your firs statement
While Muslims and Xtians may have denegrated Sex to a filthy habit - it is NOT that way in Jusaism.
In fact - in Judaism - one of the most sacred orders of the god was Go Forth and Multipy. Israeli leaders had numerous wives and concubines to do that with. Solomon is claimed to have had over 700 wives and over 300 concubines - and if having 300 concubines is stifling pleasure - how many more could you really satisfy!