(June 16, 2014 at 9:29 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(June 14, 2014 at 2:39 pm)Chuck Wrote: Actually, ISIS was never really Al Queda. It was once a franchise of Al Queda. Now it mostly has its own agenda and Al Queda fears it. ISIS in Iraq is better thought of as a Sunni insurgency seeking to carve out a Sunni state to restore the preveliged status enjoyed by Sunnis of the takriti clan under sadam. ISIS's military success owe much to the dispossessed but trained former soldiers and officers of Sadam's old Sunni Takrit clan dominated Iraqi national army.
They didn't take Takrit first in Iraq, Saddam's home town and seat of the Takriti clan, for no reason.
I think his point, that American intervention is for us lose-lose, still stands.
Not really. We could win if we ally with Iran. But it requires a major eating of our own words as well as a political determination to shatter the influence of Israel lobby.