(June 18, 2014 at 2:42 am)Riketto Wrote: According to the legend Shiva lived 7000 years ago and
both Shiva and krishna were Taraka Brahma or the incarnation of God that came on this planet to teach people how to live better but most of all how to attain liberation from the bondage of flesh.
And Shiva as a deity is just an aspect of God. Everything goes back to God in the end.
(June 18, 2014 at 2:42 am)Riketto Wrote: Please do not ask me for evidence.
I couldn't give you any physically or mentally speaking.
You don't have to because the mythic realm has its own truth. On the other hand, somebody had to discover the yoga technique. Maybe there's a clue here - Mother Meera
Quote:Mother Meera is considered by her followers as an AVATA R of the Divine Mother. She is a silent teacher, primarily offering DARSHAN (eyegazing) to visitors to help them achieve health and happiness.
Born Kamala Reddy on December 26, 1960, Mother Meera was raised in the village of Chan-drapalle in southern India. Her parents were not religious and raised her under no particular tradition. She was described as an unusual child, who often spoke of mysterious lights that visited her. She would later reveal that she received much of her love and spiritual guidance from visions. At the age of six she experienced her first SAMADHI, higher state of consciousness. Her uncle recognized the child’s gift and invited her to stay with him in Pondicherry. In 1974 she visited SRI AUROBINDO’s ashram, attracting considerable attention there, and soon began giving DARSHAN, her own blessings to others. Her presence in Pondicherry attracted many and her popularity grew.
Devotees throughout the world consider Mother Meera an avatar of the Divine Mother, who has previously incarnated in other forms, such as KALI and the Virgin Mary. The appearance of the Mother is believed to offer people of the world healing, protection, and transformation in a time of crisis. Mother Meera has stated that the world is now in crisis and that her role is to give the transformative light of Paramatman, the Supreme Self, to everyone around the world. The light that she speaks of is the Supreme Being, which is an untapped energy permeating the world. Mother Meera believes that the ignition of supreme energy will give health, joy, and happiness to anyone who is open to it.
Perhaps there were real men who were believed to be embodiments of God. Their human identities were regarded as irrelevant so weren't recorded.
(June 18, 2014 at 2:42 am)Riketto Wrote: The only way to understand these two figures is to practice what they taught.
From there you will understand that even the most intelligent human being could not ever have came out with such practical method of progressing.
Not necessarily because humans have been experimenting with altered states of consciousness ever since our species appeared on the scene. Who came first? Shiva or Krishna? I'm going to say Shiva to illustrate what I mean. What were these men tuning into? There's a fascinating video of a lecture given by a woman who had a stroke. Start at point 3.52 where she describes how the right hemisphere of the brain operates. She then explains how the left hemisphere operates. When she was cut off from the left hemisphere she experienced a feeling of being energy connected to all other energy. Keep going with the video to get her descriptions of what it was like to be in right brain consciousness because she uses terms like euphoria and Nirvana. Her insight is that we are the life force power of the universe in right brain consciousness and there would be great value if everyone learned how to experience this for themselves.
Maybe Shiva was a human who had a talent for achieving altered states of consciousness and he discovered a new technique. People practised what he taught. Then Krishna came along, used the technique and refined it. People then practised what Krishna taught. The technique allowed them to switch off left brain consciousness so they were only aware of right brain consciousness. The advantage here is that nobody needs to have a stroke in order to discover what Jill Bolte found.
Does looking at it in terms of how the brain is constructed prove that God doesn't exist.? Vilayanur S. Ramachandran is a neruoscientist who said this in God On The Brain
Quote:RAMACHANDRAN: Just because there are circuits in your brain that predispose you to religious belief does not in any way negate the value of a religious belief. Now it may be god's way of putting an antenna in your brain to make you more receptive to god. Nothing our scientists are saying about the brain or about neural circuitry for religion in any way negates the existence of god, nor negates the value of religious experience for the person experiencing it.
(June 18, 2014 at 2:42 am)Riketto Wrote: Philosophy deal with finding total and unlimited bliss while these people only worry about their daily existence.
The philosophical aspect is what counts as survival in relation to uploading. A related philosophical topic concerns the transporters in Star Trek. There are a lot of discussions about it on the internet. The materialistic view is that the original person is destroyed and what comes out the other end is a copy which thinks it's the original. When the copy uses a transporter it's destroyed as well and what comes out the other end is a copy of a copy. Others wonder about souls. If humans really do have souls does a transported person's soul travel to the transporter destination and take up residence in the copied body?
We don't have to worry about this at the moment, though, because teleportation hasn't been invented.
(June 18, 2014 at 2:42 am)Riketto Wrote: When i was a kid my catholic parents forced me to go to church and listen
all the garbage that the priests were saying.
After so much brain washing i came to the conclusion that hell really exist.
It took me sometime to realize that it was all bullshit.
My suggestion to you is .......listen as much as you like but when the story sound incredible than it is likely to be trash.
After 30 years of Jungian psychology I regard Christianity as having some symbolic truth in the mythic realm. It's definitely bullshit if we're told to believe everything happened in objective reality, though.
(June 18, 2014 at 2:42 am)Riketto Wrote: Knowledge is like the iceberg.
We got the part above the water and the part below.
We can only perceive the one above which is the smaller part.
Intuition is to perceive the one below.
Yoga is the way to get the whole.
That sounds very Jungian.

(June 18, 2014 at 2:42 am)Riketto Wrote: Who make you feel to come here in this forum?
Where the feel of wishing come from?
There are so many questions but don't worry.
Sooner or later when within you the door will star knocking stronger and stronger than you will find how to give an answer to all these questions.
Maybe there is more than one door and mine is Jungian psychology.




