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The fall of post invasion Iraq
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RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq
(June 17, 2014 at 4:19 pm)Chuck Wrote: At least in Iraq there is Iran to help keep the whole mess from turning into a Sunni terrorist state. What do you suppose will be the reaction when Taliban takes over Afghanistan?

To be honest, I supported the withdrawal of troops from Iraq because the entire thing was done in the pursuit of oil. There was never any valid, America-serving agenda for the invasion of Iraq. There just wasn't. As we all know; it was just for oil.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/19/opinion/ir...il-juhasz/

But Afghanistan is a country we more or less had to invade. Our invasion was in pursuit of an individual who had just committed an unforgivable and direct attack against the US. We decided to take him and his supporters out. So we did. More or less. We actually could have done the job properly if Bush hadn't been semi-secretly holding back a sizable number of our armed forces to pursue his puppetmasters' pet project not long after. Our invasion directly resulted in the Afghan government being overthrown...and, frankly, not a moment too soon. But we had to accept responsibility for our actions. We have been, and honestly, if the Afghani president asked us to, I would say we should continue to do so. Not with the CIA drone strikes which are unforgivably flippant and apathetic to the civilian death toll they inflict, but with a continue military presence as advisers and rapid-response detachments to deal with any particularly overt and organized attacks, such as the ones that are guaranteed to overthrow the pitiful ghost of a government that Iraq thought was a towering inferno of presence.

But. Karzai wants us out. It remains to be seen if his successor will want us to as well.

If he does...the question becomes, if he requests our assistance after the fact for whatever reason...should we lend it?
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The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Fidel_Castronaut - June 12, 2014 at 5:08 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Cato - June 12, 2014 at 8:25 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Vox - June 12, 2014 at 11:53 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by DeistPaladin - July 24, 2014 at 2:55 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Creed of Heresy - June 12, 2014 at 12:05 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Autumnlicious - June 12, 2014 at 12:09 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Anomalocaris - June 12, 2014 at 1:24 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by vorlon13 - June 12, 2014 at 1:12 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Creed of Heresy - June 12, 2014 at 3:13 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Dragonetti - June 12, 2014 at 3:32 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by A Theist - June 13, 2014 at 7:56 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Heywood - June 13, 2014 at 9:07 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by A Theist - June 13, 2014 at 9:26 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Ryantology - June 14, 2014 at 12:19 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Creed of Heresy - June 14, 2014 at 12:36 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Heywood - June 16, 2014 at 9:40 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Thumpalumpacus - June 16, 2014 at 10:11 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Heywood - June 16, 2014 at 10:14 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Tonus - June 17, 2014 at 2:49 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Thumpalumpacus - June 17, 2014 at 9:11 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by DeistPaladin - July 24, 2014 at 3:02 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 13, 2014 at 11:39 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Heywood - June 13, 2014 at 12:21 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 13, 2014 at 12:43 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Heywood - June 13, 2014 at 1:40 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Raeven - June 13, 2014 at 2:13 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by downbeatplumb - June 13, 2014 at 12:47 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Anomalocaris - June 13, 2014 at 12:55 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Autumnlicious - June 13, 2014 at 12:56 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Anomalocaris - June 13, 2014 at 2:56 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Creed of Heresy - June 13, 2014 at 3:27 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 13, 2014 at 4:39 pm
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RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 13, 2014 at 5:10 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Raeven - June 13, 2014 at 6:12 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 13, 2014 at 6:18 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 13, 2014 at 7:11 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 13, 2014 at 10:18 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Jackalope - June 13, 2014 at 10:33 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Anomalocaris - June 14, 2014 at 12:01 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Mudhammam - June 13, 2014 at 10:39 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 13, 2014 at 11:51 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Thumpalumpacus - June 14, 2014 at 8:32 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Dragonetti - June 14, 2014 at 12:58 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 14, 2014 at 1:11 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Dragonetti - June 14, 2014 at 2:01 pm
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RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Thumpalumpacus - June 16, 2014 at 9:29 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Anomalocaris - June 16, 2014 at 11:01 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 14, 2014 at 2:53 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 16, 2014 at 8:35 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 16, 2014 at 9:49 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 16, 2014 at 10:23 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Heywood - June 16, 2014 at 10:38 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 16, 2014 at 10:45 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 16, 2014 at 11:05 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Creed of Heresy - June 17, 2014 at 12:37 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Crossless1 - June 17, 2014 at 1:40 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 17, 2014 at 1:49 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Anomalocaris - June 17, 2014 at 2:07 pm
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RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Dragonetti - June 17, 2014 at 3:09 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Anomalocaris - June 17, 2014 at 3:36 pm
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RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Anomalocaris - June 17, 2014 at 4:19 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Creed of Heresy - June 18, 2014 at 12:07 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Fidel_Castronaut - August 4, 2014 at 7:36 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Ryantology - June 18, 2014 at 6:14 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Dragonetti - June 17, 2014 at 4:21 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 17, 2014 at 4:27 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Jackalope - June 17, 2014 at 4:41 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 17, 2014 at 4:53 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Jackalope - June 17, 2014 at 5:32 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 17, 2014 at 6:04 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Anomalocaris - June 17, 2014 at 8:30 pm
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RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 18, 2014 at 12:14 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Dragonetti - June 18, 2014 at 12:51 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 18, 2014 at 1:18 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Mudhammam - June 18, 2014 at 5:17 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Anomalocaris - June 18, 2014 at 10:57 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 18, 2014 at 8:36 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Mudhammam - June 18, 2014 at 8:38 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Thumpalumpacus - June 24, 2014 at 4:24 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 18, 2014 at 8:39 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 24, 2014 at 1:28 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Anomalocaris - June 24, 2014 at 3:22 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 24, 2014 at 3:59 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Anomalocaris - June 24, 2014 at 5:28 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Thumpalumpacus - June 24, 2014 at 6:34 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 24, 2014 at 6:09 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Dragonetti - June 24, 2014 at 6:29 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 24, 2014 at 7:44 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Heywood - June 25, 2014 at 10:05 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Crossless1 - July 24, 2014 at 2:40 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Anomalocaris - July 24, 2014 at 2:57 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - June 25, 2014 at 12:02 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - July 24, 2014 at 2:30 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - July 24, 2014 at 2:58 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Anomalocaris - July 24, 2014 at 3:02 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by StealthySkeptic - July 29, 2014 at 11:36 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Diablo - August 2, 2014 at 7:21 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Zack - August 2, 2014 at 8:21 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Anomalocaris - August 2, 2014 at 8:30 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - August 2, 2014 at 8:35 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Anomalocaris - August 2, 2014 at 9:30 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Zack - August 2, 2014 at 8:55 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - August 7, 2014 at 12:17 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2014 at 12:23 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Cato - August 7, 2014 at 12:30 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Anomalocaris - August 7, 2014 at 12:43 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Cato - August 7, 2014 at 1:24 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by DeistPaladin - August 7, 2014 at 1:20 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - August 7, 2014 at 2:17 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by ccapehart1980 - August 10, 2014 at 6:44 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Zack - August 10, 2014 at 8:07 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Fidel_Castronaut - August 11, 2014 at 2:24 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Thumpalumpacus - August 13, 2014 at 4:33 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - August 13, 2014 at 4:55 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Polaris - August 13, 2014 at 11:52 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by DeistPaladin - August 14, 2014 at 8:20 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Anomalocaris - August 14, 2014 at 10:19 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Polaris - August 14, 2014 at 7:51 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by DeistPaladin - August 15, 2014 at 10:51 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Fidel_Castronaut - August 14, 2014 at 8:55 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Thumpalumpacus - August 14, 2014 at 11:10 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - August 15, 2014 at 1:12 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Polaris - August 15, 2014 at 7:47 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by bladevalant546 - August 15, 2014 at 10:56 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - August 16, 2014 at 1:37 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Polaris - August 16, 2014 at 1:51 pm
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - August 22, 2014 at 1:30 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Polaris - August 22, 2014 at 1:46 am
RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - August 25, 2014 at 3:06 pm
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RE: The fall of post invasion Iraq - by Minimalist - September 1, 2014 at 11:19 pm
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