(June 25, 2014 at 8:38 am)Confused Ape Wrote: Physical science can't explain what isn't physical but research into the role of the pineal gland is indicating some interesting things.
Physical science will discover more and more but sooner or later will find himself in a blind alley.
The spiritual side of the gland can only be discovered by practicing spirituality.
The effort to fill the gap between finite and infinite is a spiritual relationship and as all relationship you got to be interested in the other party.
Considering that physical science is only a theoretical study then the chances to get in a real relationship with the infinity are zero.
Quote:A lot of religions do have those problems, though, because they're bogged down in theology. Theology is just ideas that people have about God and science can show that many of those ideas are wrong because they're not related to reality. Or not related to how God created things to be where people who believe that God created everything are concerned.
You can't really reason with religious people as they lock themselves inside a corral of dogmas or false truth.
A waste of time and a waste of their lives considering that they are getting nowhere.
Quote:But studying the brain can still prove beneficial. Let's go back to little Ricky and his mangoes. What's happening in his brain when he eats the fruit which will satisfy his hunger? Once this has been established the travellers move on and come across Mary and Dave. Mary eats pears and Dave eats oranges and they're forever fighting over which is the 'right' fruit to eat. What's happening in their brains when they eat their chosen fruit? If it's the same as what happens in little Ricki's brain it shows that all the fruit is good to eat and which one is right depends on the individual.
I didn't said that studying the brain is not beneficial.
I only said that this kind of study will be confined to the physical-mental side of ourself.
Quote:I have no idea if Ramachandran is searching for anything in his private life but, in his professional life, he's a scientist who specialises in brains. His work is helping people such as those who suffer from phantom limbs.
Imagine what life must have been like for Jimmy before Ramachandran discovered that therapy. The brain works in mysterious ways but learning how it operates doesn't disprove the existence of God. If everything is a manifestation of God it's telling us how God operates as a brain.
When you study something you always look for a goal.
Physical science can not have a goal as the universe is finite.
That means that sooner or later anyone studying something will want to get out the finite limitations and penetrate the infinite arena.
Ramachandran like you like me and like all the guys in this forum we are no exception.
It is only a question of when.
Quote:I suppose Jungian psychology could be classed as a kind of mystical path because he was one of the pioneers of Transpersonal Psychology.
A lot of good theories but where is the practical way to progress?
Suppose you want to get the driving licence.
You study all the road rules but you never drive the car.
What's the point?
Quote:Finally, I came across an interesting Neil deGrasse Tyson Quote.
Quote:We are part of this universe; we are in this universe, but perhaps more important than both of those facts, is that the universe is in us.Does that sound familiar? The universe is in us is a scientific fact. Is there anything beyond the physical? Science cannot answer that but, if there is, God is manifesting as the universe within us.
Well before we can understand this point we have to understand that the physical reality is an illusion.
That is not that simple as the brick that fall on the head hurt a lot.
Some fakirs can sleep on a nails bed without feeling any pain as other people who go in trance do.
In spirituality there are other ways to deal with this problem to an extent
by practicing the 2 lesson.
When you come to believe that you exist in God mind the physical reality no longer apply but everything come as slow or as fast as your spiritual progress goes.
