RE: The redneck strike again.
June 30, 2014 at 4:43 am
(This post was last modified: June 30, 2014 at 5:16 am by Confused Ape.)
(June 30, 2014 at 2:17 am)Rhythm Wrote: That's just the rub, you're skipping a step here. I would settle for science studying the part of the brahman that is here, present, with us, in this world.
You mean the physical universe which science is already studying? Is there any scientific evidence so far that the physical universe is only one part of the Brahman?
Erwin Schrödinger was into the Vedanta and the page I've linked to provides quotes relating to it. If you think this sufficient proof that Hindu cosmology is correct as objective reality you can study Quantum Mysticism, otherwise known as Quantum Woo. A good introduction to this is a movie called What The Bleep Do We Know!?
Quote:The film has been criticized for both misrepresenting science and containing pseudoscience and has been described as a case of quantum mysticism.
Some ideas discussed in the film are:
The universe is best seen as constructed from thought (or ideas) rather than from substance.
(June 30, 2014 at 2:17 am)Rhythm Wrote: I would like to determine whether or not the brahman has any parts at all - before we start debating over whether or not any particular part has a particular attribute (like transcendence). Otherwise we're staring very intently at an empty set, and it;s not like that;s going to get us very far, is it?
The Brahman is supposed to manifest as the physical universe. How will you go about determining whether or not this concept of God has any parts at all?
(June 30, 2014 at 2:17 am)Rhythm Wrote: Seems to me that you're demanding that science not be included for no reason at all. I could suggest reasons - but they wouldn't be flattering to the claim.
Have you thought about why Quantum Mysticism is classed as pseudoscience? If the universe could only be explained by a transcendent reality beyond the physical, Stephen Hawking would have written a book about it.
(June 30, 2014 at 2:17 am)Rhythm Wrote: The only reason I;m making any noise about this is that it;s fascinating to me that you can go on about quantum foam and the brahman in one breath - and then tell us that science must be immediately and thoroughly discarded as useless the next. Convenient, sure...but well founded? Not in this thread, not yet anyway.
Do you really believe that quantum foam proves that the Brahman exists as objective reality? Do you really believe that there's a transcendent reality beyond the physical universe? If there is one, why hasn't somebody been awarded a Nobel Prize for proving it and providing scientific facts about it?
(June 30, 2014 at 2:17 am)Rhythm Wrote: Is it possible that you are stretching both science and brahman simultaneously, so that they might appear to meet in the middle?
The only sort of science which can be stretched to meet in the middle with the Brahman is pseudoscience. Mainstream science hasn't found any evidence of a transcendent reality so it can't be used to meet in the middle with any concept of God.



