The redneck strike again.

[Confused Ape]

I think the elephant in the room on this one is that we would be at a loss as to explain which beings, at what level, were at the fundamental level. Or even if there were a fundamental level. Turtles all the way down.

We haven't succeeded in creating a proper simulation of the universe yet which means we're at the bottom. It's computers all the way up to fundamental reality.

Any point we stop at will immediately be subject to criticism as having been, ultimately, decided upon for no defensible reason. We're using alot of oxygen to describe the contents of an empty box - and whenever that happens...it's like a canary in the mines to me, with regards to rational thought.

But the people who came up with this idea are physicists and a philosopher .

I'm personally going to make sure there's a road under my car before i floor the pedal, you know? If I don't, I really shouldn't be surprised later to find that I had, in fact, gone off the road completely. Even if there actually were an invisible road under my car - it wouldn't make me wise...and I wouldn't call it a good decision - to gun it anyway.

I know what you mean. There's no point in believing any scientific model of the universe is true until somebody proves that one of them really is true.

Hmm. I wonder if I could misrepresent the holographic universe idea to prove that the Earth is really flat.