RE: The redneck strike again.
June 30, 2014 at 5:26 pm
(This post was last modified: June 30, 2014 at 5:28 pm by Confused Ape.)
(June 30, 2014 at 1:52 pm)Rhythm Wrote: When we find a baseball, we see that it has mass - one of the characteristics of what we might call "the universe" Why do we then not say to ourselves "Hmn, how curious, perhaps the universe is like a baseball?" Don't we make the much stronger claim - this baseball has characteristics consistent with something "of this universe"? If you could explain to me why this is true for a baseball but not a computer simulation, or if you could explain to me why we might have a rational justification for considering -the universe- as having some quality that belongs to a baseball, rather than the usual order in which we might place those objects in relation to each other - I'd be a little closer to convinced.

(June 30, 2014 at 1:59 pm)rasetsu Wrote: "If"
Well, there's this on the Cornell University Library Website which seems to be as far as they've got - Constraints on the Universe as a Numerical Simulation
I then discovered a general audience presentation of the above on the Washington University Dept Of Physics website - General Audience Presentation
(June 30, 2014 at 1:52 pm)Rhythm Wrote: The problem I find with digital philosophy is that it suggests that a higher level reality would be constrained by how things work in a lower level reality when there's no reason to make that assumption. That our computational models have these limits is no reason to suppose that if the universe were a simulation, those running the simulation would be under similar constraints
It sounds like Nick Bostrom could have got carried away with his stacked levels of reality but it's a fun idea to play around with. I've done a lot of googling to see if other physicists are saying that Silas R. Beane, Zohreh Davoudi and Martin J. Savage are barking mad but no results so far. It appears that mainstream scientists think they're being rational for hoping to test their numerical simulation idea.



