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So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby
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RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby
(July 1, 2014 at 11:50 am)Clueless Morgan Wrote: [
(June 30, 2014 at 11:23 pm)Jenny A Wrote: OK so I finally got around to reading the damned decision.
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4. Hobby Lobby is a closely held corporation who's shareholders all believe contraceptives are morally wrong for religious reasons.

It's my understanding that they are not opposed to all contraceptives, they are opposed to four specific kinds, (Mirena, Paragard, Plan B, and Ella), which Hobby Lobby believes to be abortifacients - which they're not. But the majority opinion specifically states that because Hobby Lobby believes these contraceptive methods to be abortifacients then they have the right to refuse coverage of them on religious grounds because they oppose abortion:

“The owners of the businesses have religious objections to abortion, and according to their religious beliefs the four contraceptive methods at issue are abortifacients.”

Mirena, Paragard, Plan B, and Ella ARE NOT abortifacients. The court's decision is based on what Hobby Lobby believes them to be, not on what they actually are. This is a dangerous precedent.

Yep. That's exactly what the court said. It acknowledged that use of the contraceptives was not in effect an abortion, but that's no surprise since the Supreme Court has not defined human life as beginning at conception. The shareholders' belief that these particular contraceptives do cause an abortion is based on the shareholders religious belief that human life begins at conception.

Anytime the courts get involved in religious freedom, the question turns primarily on what the persons claiming religious freedom actual believe. It's not a new idea.
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So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Mister Agenda - June 30, 2014 at 11:50 am
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Nine - June 30, 2014 at 11:57 am
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jenny A - June 30, 2014 at 12:20 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Nine - June 30, 2014 at 12:45 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Nine - June 30, 2014 at 12:49 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Dystopia - June 30, 2014 at 5:54 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Dystopia - June 30, 2014 at 8:38 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Brian37 - June 30, 2014 at 8:38 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Dystopia - June 30, 2014 at 2:51 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jenny A - June 30, 2014 at 2:53 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Dystopia - June 30, 2014 at 2:57 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Dystopia - June 30, 2014 at 3:07 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Dystopia - June 30, 2014 at 3:23 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Dystopia - June 30, 2014 at 3:46 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jenny A - June 30, 2014 at 9:07 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 1, 2014 at 8:09 am
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jenny A - July 1, 2014 at 9:20 am
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Minimalist - June 30, 2014 at 12:47 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by vorlon13 - June 30, 2014 at 1:03 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - June 30, 2014 at 1:12 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by vorlon13 - June 30, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - June 30, 2014 at 1:21 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jenny A - June 30, 2014 at 1:36 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - June 30, 2014 at 1:43 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Angrboda - June 30, 2014 at 1:30 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jenny A - June 30, 2014 at 1:38 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by dreenbmp - June 30, 2014 at 1:52 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Esquilax - June 30, 2014 at 8:39 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Brian37 - June 30, 2014 at 8:41 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Dystopia - June 30, 2014 at 9:04 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jackalope - June 30, 2014 at 10:16 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jenny A - June 30, 2014 at 11:23 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Esquilax - July 1, 2014 at 12:29 am
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jenny A - July 1, 2014 at 12:36 am
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Esquilax - July 1, 2014 at 12:38 am
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Cato - July 1, 2014 at 8:11 am
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 1, 2014 at 8:25 am
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jenny A - July 1, 2014 at 12:15 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 1, 2014 at 3:23 pm
So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Rampant.A.I. - July 1, 2014 at 10:54 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by vorlon13 - July 1, 2014 at 11:16 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 7, 2014 at 3:39 pm
RE: So, the SCOTUS sided with Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 7, 2014 at 4:02 pm

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