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Science vs Morality
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RE: Science vs Morality
I'm sorry, but this is gibberish to me. You say science says over and over and then make assertions without definitions or citations.

(July 2, 2014 at 3:08 am)Mozart Link Wrote: It's a scientific fact that people who have all the pleasure in the world with a sense of superiority are better people than those who are depressed and humble.

What makes a "better person" does not sound like a scientific question at all, especially if what is a "better person" is left undefined. It sounds like a moral or personal preference question. Putting the word science in the sentence doesn't help.

(July 2, 2014 at 3:08 am)Mozart Link Wrote: If you have less pleasure, that makes you less of a person according to science because who you are is your brain and all of its processes and also the fact that greater is "better" when it comes to science.

Greater is not necessarily better according to science. Science makes no such blanket value judgements. And whether you are "more or less of a person" sounds more like a philosophical question than a scientific one.

(July 2, 2014 at 3:08 am)Mozart Link Wrote: If, for example, you have a computer that has greater RAM and such than others' computers, then your computer would be better than their computers. Therefore, if you have a mind that has greater activity and capabilities, that makes you a better person.

But does the computer have greater pleasure? And is it faster or slower. Is it portable? There are many factors by which we judge computers.

(July 2, 2014 at 3:08 am)Mozart Link Wrote: But as for someone who has greater intelligence than someone who has greater pleasure, the scientific fact is that pleasure is the greatest thing above any function in the brain because our personal experience of this emotion obviously says so (it is a natural conclusion that we make because without pleasure, then you would obviously be completely dead inside and no one would ever want that). You would obviously sacrifice your intelligence and all other areas of your brain if it meant not losing all of your pleasure.

Speak for yourself. Some of us derive substantial pleasure from our intelligence.

(July 2, 2014 at 3:08 am)Mozart Link Wrote: And for you to state otherwise would obviously mean you have no comprehension whatsoever of what it would feel like to lose all of your pleasure.

Loosing all pleasure in life would be horrific. Loosing all intelligence would be horrific. Your point?

(July 2, 2014 at 3:08 am)Mozart Link Wrote: Therefore, since pleasure is the greatest function of the brain, if you have less pleasure, that makes you less of a person regardless of how much activity or capabilities you have in other parts of your brain.

You still haven't established that pleasure is the greatest function of the brain, nor even what you mean by greatest function of the brain---the most common? the best? the driving force? the most pleasurable? the most useful? What?
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Science vs Morality - by Mozart Link - July 2, 2014 at 3:08 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by ignoramus - July 2, 2014 at 3:33 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Dystopia - July 2, 2014 at 2:52 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 2, 2014 at 3:33 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Grandizer - July 2, 2014 at 3:41 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Bibliofagus - July 2, 2014 at 4:39 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Grandizer - July 2, 2014 at 4:52 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by ignoramus - July 2, 2014 at 6:04 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Losty - July 3, 2014 at 10:31 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Ben Davis - July 2, 2014 at 6:41 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mudhammam - July 2, 2014 at 10:07 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Jenny A - July 2, 2014 at 10:27 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mozart Link - July 2, 2014 at 11:52 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Jenny A - July 2, 2014 at 12:16 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mister Agenda - July 2, 2014 at 10:38 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Cato - July 2, 2014 at 12:13 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mozart Link - July 2, 2014 at 12:30 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Cato - July 2, 2014 at 12:37 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by LostLocke - July 2, 2014 at 12:45 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Grandizer - July 2, 2014 at 12:47 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by LostLocke - July 2, 2014 at 12:54 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Grandizer - July 2, 2014 at 1:07 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mudhammam - July 2, 2014 at 12:53 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Jenny A - July 2, 2014 at 1:03 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mozart Link - July 2, 2014 at 1:06 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Jenny A - July 2, 2014 at 1:08 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by LostLocke - July 2, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mozart Link - July 2, 2014 at 1:23 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by LostLocke - July 2, 2014 at 1:25 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mozart Link - July 2, 2014 at 1:30 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Confused Ape - July 2, 2014 at 2:48 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Jenny A - July 2, 2014 at 1:32 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Cato - July 2, 2014 at 1:44 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 2, 2014 at 7:34 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by downbeatplumb - July 2, 2014 at 1:23 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by The Grand Nudger - July 2, 2014 at 1:50 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Jenny A - July 2, 2014 at 2:13 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by LostLocke - July 2, 2014 at 2:57 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mozart Link - July 2, 2014 at 11:12 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Jenny A - July 2, 2014 at 11:42 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mozart Link - July 2, 2014 at 11:49 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mudhammam - July 3, 2014 at 12:08 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Polaris - July 3, 2014 at 12:15 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Jenny A - July 3, 2014 at 12:19 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Polaris - July 3, 2014 at 12:29 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Jenny A - July 3, 2014 at 12:32 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Polaris - July 3, 2014 at 12:39 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Jenny A - July 3, 2014 at 12:46 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mudhammam - July 3, 2014 at 12:27 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Bibliofagus - July 3, 2014 at 12:36 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mister Agenda - July 3, 2014 at 10:36 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mozart Link - July 3, 2014 at 2:51 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mister Agenda - July 3, 2014 at 2:54 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mozart Link - July 3, 2014 at 2:56 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mudhammam - July 3, 2014 at 3:11 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mister Agenda - July 3, 2014 at 3:23 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mister Agenda - July 3, 2014 at 2:57 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by ignoramus - July 3, 2014 at 6:17 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mozart Link - July 3, 2014 at 6:39 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by ignoramus - July 3, 2014 at 8:15 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mozart Link - July 3, 2014 at 9:45 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Grandizer - July 3, 2014 at 10:27 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mozart Link - July 3, 2014 at 10:30 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Grandizer - July 3, 2014 at 10:43 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mozart Link - July 3, 2014 at 11:03 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mudhammam - July 3, 2014 at 11:07 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mozart Link - July 4, 2014 at 12:09 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Grandizer - July 4, 2014 at 12:17 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mozart Link - July 4, 2014 at 12:34 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Grandizer - July 4, 2014 at 12:42 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mister Agenda - July 4, 2014 at 11:48 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Losty - July 3, 2014 at 11:16 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 12:22 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by ignoramus - July 4, 2014 at 3:56 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Grandizer - July 4, 2014 at 4:18 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by ignoramus - July 4, 2014 at 4:57 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 4:00 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by ManMachine - July 4, 2014 at 4:53 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Cato - July 4, 2014 at 9:08 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 4, 2014 at 7:51 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by JuliaL - July 4, 2014 at 8:15 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mozart Link - July 4, 2014 at 11:35 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Jenny A - July 4, 2014 at 11:48 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by LostLocke - July 5, 2014 at 10:43 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Grandizer - July 4, 2014 at 11:54 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Dystopia - July 5, 2014 at 9:39 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Grandizer - July 5, 2014 at 10:15 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Dystopia - July 5, 2014 at 10:18 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 11:58 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mister Agenda - July 5, 2014 at 10:46 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mozart Link - July 5, 2014 at 11:35 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by LostLocke - July 5, 2014 at 11:44 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by Jenny A - July 5, 2014 at 11:47 am
RE: Science vs Morality - by The Grand Nudger - July 5, 2014 at 12:17 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Angrboda - July 5, 2014 at 12:28 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by Mozart Link - July 6, 2014 at 8:35 pm
RE: Science vs Morality - by LostLocke - July 7, 2014 at 8:36 am

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