RE: Science vs Morality
July 4, 2014 at 12:09 am
(This post was last modified: July 4, 2014 at 12:16 am by Mozart Link.)
(July 3, 2014 at 11:07 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: I don't think you understand what facts are. It's your opinion that pleasure is worth. People who suffer more don't become worth less, nor does their perspective on their own worth necessarily suffer. This idea of yours that pleasure is the end-all in life is just that: your idea. Nothing more, nothing less.Now go ahead and tell me which would be better: 1.) Having no pleasure, but having the thought that you are a human being who has worth, or 2.) Having all the pleasure in the world that you are a human being who has worth? The 2nd choice would obviously be better because you obviously, again, would be a mere emotionless robot with no pleasure with just a thought. The concept of something being "better" means more worth. Therefore, since having pleasure would be better than just having a thought with no pleasure, you would have more worth if you had more pleasure.
(July 3, 2014 at 11:07 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: And this statement:They have no worth (pleasure), but they would have a purpose.Quote:that means they have no worth as well regardless of the fact that you feel they have worth.That's just flat out dumb. What do you think worth is? Some intrinsic property that some objects possess independent of minds to apprehend them?