(July 4, 2014 at 12:34 am)Mozart Link Wrote:(July 4, 2014 at 12:17 am)Irrational Wrote: Better in what regard? "Better" is not equivalent to "having more worth".A car would have more worth (just in that specific sense) and a human being would have more worth too (again, just in that specific example you gave). But since pleasure is the best part of you better than any amount of other brain function or capabilities combined (again, best meaning having the most worth), then for you to have no pleasure means you basically have no worth. Again, for you to decide that other areas of the brain have more value than pleasure and that you would sacrifice your pleasure in order to keep your intelligence and such means you have no comprehension of what it would feel like to lose all your pleasure. It would be worse than death because at least when you are dead, you don't have any such painful realization that you have lost the greatest part of you.
A car is better than a human being in getting us to places. But a human being is better than a car in giving us advices.
I am not saying pleasure is not important, nor am I arguing it's not the most important thing a rational being could have (it may very well be). What I'm arguing is that the worth of an entity is not something that exists independent of one's rating of its worth. So it is subjective and does not have to depend on how much a person can experience pleasure.
Science has no say in this matter exactly because worth is subjective. What may be trash to one is a treasure to someone else.
