Science vs Morality

[Mister Agenda]

But again, you haven't scientifically explained how pleasure itself should be a measure of someone's worth.

Because without pleasure, then you will have no sense of worth about yourself or others. And if others didn't have pleasure, they would have no sense of worth either.

So how does it follow that we should be selfish and not care about others, if one of the things that gives us pleasure is helping others? It's not the hedonism that puts you on a logic derail, it's the cynicism.

And this: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Ma...TrollLogic