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Legalization.
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RE: Legalization.
(July 4, 2014 at 9:05 pm)Losty Wrote: Oh I cannot quote you lol. It takes too long!

"Despite you having more liberal views than me I for the first time agreed with everything you said, except for the relative part, I think at least you should warn a close person if there is one, sometimes people are emotionally unstable and talking with your wife/brother/son etc can change the odds. It's still a decision, just a precaution to be taken."
I will agree with you that a person should warn a close relative. I will not agree that they should be legally required to.

Again, I don't know how your country's constitution works. My country's constitution establishes rights for citizens and limitations for government not the other way around.
You never have to decide whether someone being allowed to do something goes against the constitution. You never have to have a constitutional justification to not restrict a freedom. Nothing has always been illegal. Everything starts out being legal. So if something is made to be illegal, you would then have to decide if that restriction of freedom is constitutionally justifiable. If it is not then you strike the law from your books. You don't have to create legislation to allow it again you just have to remove the legislation that banned it. As I said, everything is legal until it is made to be illegal.

I disagree with the relative/friend part, I think it should be a legal obligation, it's just a precaution and it doesn't compromise your decision, you have the final saying. But let's put that aside. As for the constitution, everything may be legal until it is made illegal, if something is not regulated it is not illegal. However you can't make everything legal if it goes against the constitution. The example of murder, it can't be made legal. I don't know what the american constitution says about euthanasia, directly or indirectly, mine says nothing, so to make it legal it would have to be trough the human dignity principle and interpreting it in a favorable way to allow euthanasia.

On the other hand, by making the constitution you are already establishing parameters of what can be legal or not in the future. So from the beginning there are already certain things that can't be made legal, they are intrinsically illegal.

(July 4, 2014 at 9:08 pm)ignoramus Wrote: I think that most things should be legalised if they prove to not be detrimental to society.
I also believe that the brain needs time to grow to be able to make a more informed decision based on the persons life experience. 18? 24?

Society should not push it's beliefs onto others.
No religious exposure till adulthood! Tell me why that is any different to selling drugs to minors.
A young person can be addicted to a belief just as they can be physically addicted to drugs.
We have zero fucking chance of that happening because we would be killing their golden goose.
Namely "indoctrination at a young vulnerable age"

Not that I disagree with your proposal, but b sides the high difficulty of implementing that measure (forbidding religious teachings to youngsters and children) and controlling it, it would be against human rights... Not to mention the slippery slope argument, what would come next? It is valid to teach religion just like it is valid to teach your morals, ethics, principles, political ideologies, the list goes now. We may think it is idiotic to indoctrinate from a very young age, but making it illegal would be against the principles of secularism and separation of the church and State.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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Messages In This Thread
Legalization. - by paulpablo - July 4, 2014 at 11:58 am
RE: Legalization. - by Silver - July 4, 2014 at 11:59 am
RE: Legalization. - by paulpablo - July 4, 2014 at 12:03 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Mister Agenda - July 4, 2014 at 12:23 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 4, 2014 at 12:26 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Bibliofagus - July 4, 2014 at 12:40 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 2:24 pm
RE: Legalization. - by A Theist - July 4, 2014 at 2:39 pm
RE: Legalization. - by paulpablo - July 4, 2014 at 6:21 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Mister Agenda - July 5, 2014 at 10:24 am
RE: Legalization. - by Faith No More - July 4, 2014 at 2:49 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 2:52 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:13 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 3:15 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:18 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Ravenshire - July 4, 2014 at 4:03 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 7:29 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Ravenshire - July 4, 2014 at 9:27 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 9:47 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Ravenshire - July 5, 2014 at 2:20 am
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 5, 2014 at 9:05 am
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 5, 2014 at 12:34 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 5, 2014 at 2:23 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:22 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Faith No More - July 4, 2014 at 3:21 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 3:25 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:37 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 3:44 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Faith No More - July 4, 2014 at 4:12 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Faith No More - July 4, 2014 at 3:40 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Ravenshire - July 4, 2014 at 4:46 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 2:49 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Faith No More - July 4, 2014 at 2:51 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 2:54 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:09 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 3:12 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 3:51 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:57 pm
RE: Legalization. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 4, 2014 at 7:16 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 8:14 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 8:17 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 8:23 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 8:27 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 8:19 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 8:21 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 8:41 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 8:49 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 8:52 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 9:05 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 9:22 pm
RE: Legalization. - by ignoramus - July 4, 2014 at 9:08 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 9:26 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 9:29 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 9:36 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 9:29 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 10:13 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 10:14 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 10:29 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 10:45 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 10:53 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 10:58 pm

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