what are we supposed to say again when christians ask us where we get our morality?

[Losty]

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For Losty-

Sure, moral pragmatism starts with something along the lines of "morality/ethics should be a tool for the [blank]"

A popular choice is common good, common happiness, common wellbeing. generally things that we can look around and see every living thing scrambling for in some form or another. The lowest common denominator of anyone involved in the conversation (and likely to be common even to those who aren't or can't be in the conversation).

Now we need observational evidence of the effect of some behaviour in a human population, an explanation of why it has that effect - so forth. Really vigorous shit.

Armed with those two things, the decision as to whether something is right or wrong is reduced to quantifiable metrics. In the same way that I can;t make 1+2=4 I cant make something that doesn't harm or impede the common good (or whatever pragmatic invocation you like) "wrong" - even if I fucking hate it. Which happens often. I'm not deciding what is "right or wrong", I'm observing what may be right or wrong, if the premise is accepted. Fully aware, of course, that the premise will undergo, and indeed require revision - in the same way that observational and experimental science had to feel out what was wrong with (or could be improved upon in) their underlying premises.

Better?

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Yes, thank you!