I am God

[Zidneya]

I'll be spamming this whole forum if I answer all the fallacy in their arguments. . . .

Choose one that is the best premise that you can think , and we start from there. . . one by one, until we complete the whole Quran. . .

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That’s were you start? Really? The Quran? Okay?
Prove me that it’s a testimony from God?
Why is Polygamy okay but not Poliandry?
Why women have to wear a hijab why God doesn’t promote acceptation instead of represion?
How many days did it take to create Heavens and Earth? Days? Really?
Why the Quran promotes killing if it’s the Word from God?
Why if promotes a Geocentric universe? (And I’m not talking about the everything revolves around our lifes I’m talking about the stars and planets)
What about all the scientific msitkes in the Quran?
What about all the cruelty in Quran?

Oh yes, you jump into the middle of the conversation,

What can I say? Some of us prefer sentences instead of
Obey Allah is equal to "No God", ie. (0) . . it is 1 + 0
Otherwise, it is "1" . . ie. "I am God" (1) . . it is 1 + 1

miss the point and present new sets of argument which is totally irrelevant to the real issue of this thread. . . the ignoratio elenchi, the ignorance of refutation and proving the wrong point.

If my disbelief to you statement is a is a Ignoratio elenchi? Because last time I checked Ignoratio elenchi is mentioning some point that has anything to do nor address the issue in question.
Then why do you bother to argue with me?
Why do you debate with me?
Why do you care if I refute or accept the Quran?
Why do you started this thread?
Why claiming that everyone else is in denial? If you don’t care about others disbelief you shouldn’t care whether or not they are in denial?
Why continue your thread?
Why not only agree with anyone?
Why do you constantly validate your point? People don’t believe you? So?
Even if you are bored you can simply do other things why this?
If my disbelief doesn’t matter why posting a Wikipedia article?

Can you tell me what is the real issue in this thread ?

That just as I can’t probe to you that I exist? You can’t prove anything that you are saying.
Tell me what can you probe?...
Okay I can play the delusion card as well. Probe me that everything you claim is true. How do you know there’s is a Zid? And if there isn’t a Zid? What are you doing?
What can you probe?
That you are God?
That there is no God?
That everything is a delusion?
If everythin is a delusion so does the Quran isn’t it?
And if the Quran is a Delusion why mentioning it?

If atheism is a religion could you answer my questions again?

Simple, sectarianism and the "law of cause and effect". . .

Primary God: Self and Ego <-- this is the "cause"
Secondary God: Allah, Jesus, Lord Krishna, "Object" , Scientist, and continue. . . . the idea and their observation.<-- this is the "effect"

According to your logic everything is God and if everything is God. Does a stone is God? Does a grain of sand? Does a stone has a will?(you know that one of the personal traits of God is his will right?) And if it doesn’t then what relevance or objectiveness does that give to the Quran? How does your logic give what is content in the Quran more sacred relevance than any other self help book if there is no supernatural info in it’s contents? And how does that logic of cause and effect solve the how does everything came up to be?
Let’s see.

Primary God: Me <-- this is the "cause"
Secondary God: Universe<-- this is the "effect"
Okay I created the universe therefore so can you. Now God kill me, stop believing in me, Stop thinking of me? Stop any kind of thought about me? Does that makes me disappear? It doesn’t have to be me. Use any member of your family and let’s see how relevant is your thought in the construction of reality?

Oh and just because I believe in something does that makes me a religious of that something? Isn’t there a line between religious faith and simple beliefs?

Ohh. And you didn’t answer my questions.
If you want I can post them again.
Do we kneel in front of the periodic table and make bows?
Do we pray to the vaccines to help us in our everyday life?
Do we see and interpret symbols printed in atoms?
Is Einstein birthday an official holiday?
Do we have to pay penitence for breaking the sound barrier?
Do we confess when we get mathematics results without doing the equations?
Do scientific institutions have tax rate excepts?
Do our good deeds are awarded by the starts in the universe?
Do we get our morals from watching the weather report?
If I believe strong enough does the laws of the universe will change?
I can post them as many time you want buddy.

Therefore, the atheistic "point of view" is characterized by the trend of mind called "realism", just as the conventional "religious" (or theistic) "point of view" is characterized by the trend of mind called "idealism" — but both atheism and theism arise on the basis of the "self"-contraction (or the ego of phenomenal "self"-consciousness), rather than on the basis of direct Intuition of the Real Self-Nature, Self-Condition, and Self-State That is Prior to separate "self" and its conventions of perception and thought.

And if atheism and theism variants since both are basing on realism an idealism doesn’t that affect the effect? And if it doesn’t affect the effect why isn’t everyone agrees with everyone? Why don’t you agree with me? Does anything that comes from the self is equal? Does the continuum examination of the reality doesn’t count?

So Richard Dawkins is not an Atheist , You are the real Atheist ?

What does that difference does it make if Dawkins is or isn’t an atheist? If my atheism that like I said before ain’t anything based on Dawkins how is affected by his religious inclinations? Oh and answering to your question if he is or not an atheist:
How do you expect me to know since like I said before: I’ve never read nor know anything about the guy? All I know is that there is a man called Richard that claims to be an atheist, Is he for sure? I dunno. Is he lying? I dunno. Is he logical? I dunno. Is a nutjob? I dunno. What does Dawkins and I are doing in the same sentence?
Is he the kind of atheism that I aspire to be? Is he the ultimate example of atheism? Does Dawkins speak on my behalf? Why am I being compared to him? If Dawkins stop being an atheist so do I?

I’m based my ideas on realism. According to your logic what does that tell you? Am I an atheist? You said that atheism is based on realism didn’t you?

Yes, subjected to one "missing premise", ie. you are able to prove you exist.

I think therefor I exist. Oh and don’t ask me to prove to you that I exists.
I can prove it to myself pal but if you have an issue with my existence that’s your problem bud not mine. Why would it be? I can live and be perfectly fine with waterer it is that you either deice or not to believe?
What you expect me that in ten twenty years from know I'm gonna: Oh but I couldn't prove to him that I'm right. because like I said I don't believe you, and it ain't my job or obligation to believe you. It is your job to convince me to believe you. It is your job to convince me the Quran.

no matter how many people I've seen in this world . . . there is still only one person there, me!

Then who are you talking to?


Can you prove you exist ?

You do realize that for me to watch your video first you have to refute what I said before right?

If perception is so objective end reliable tool then no one will make a trust mistake ever.
“Perception is seeing people and things not as they are, but as we think they are.”

You want a conclusion? Ive got one.
Muslim and atheism are contradictions.

Prove it. . . that is blank statement and not even an argument. It is an opinion.

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Do atheist guide themselves on what the Quran says?
Does the Quran affects atheism?
If people stop believing in Allah does that affect atheism? And vice versa?
Was the prophet Muhammad an atheist?
Does atheist and Muslims concord in everything?

Oh one last question do you really think that I'm gonna read every article and video that you post me? It's you who has to prove me your points pal. I'm not gonna read nor watch anything. If I wanted to see if you are right I would seek that info by myself instead of read and watch what you show me. That's why I mentioned my own Ignoratio elenchi definition. But like I said "I don't believe you." Much less I'm gonna start reading stuff to believe you. You convince me not wikipedia.