Proving the Bible is false in few words.

[nickos777]

*shuffles along obediently to the new set of goalposts*

Okay, thats fine. No empirical evidence for god can ever be found, so if a given phenomenon has an explanation, there will always be a naturalistic explanation for it. The rest of my post is therefore unaffected. I'll repeat myself.

It therefore follows that:
1. Anything that could be explained with reference to god, could be explained at least as well without reference to god. Thus 'god' has zero explanatory value.
2. 'Miracles' either didn't happen, or have a naturalistic explanation.
3. Following on from 2, the bible becomes a collection of myths.

No

1. God has no business with explanatory values, ever.
2. or did happen <-- how did you eliminate this option?
3. it is necessarily beholden to the observer to accept or deny the claim. Which as I keep saying, is the whole point. It is also crucial that there's no sway on that choice empirically.

All facts, including all phenomenal facts, are metaphysically necessitated by the microphysical facts. If P is a statement that reports all the microphysical facts and Q is a statement that reports all phenomenal facts...then:
(Entailment Thesis) P -> Q is metaphysically necessary.

Perhaps you could translate that philosobabble into English and I'll do my best to answer. Or PM Arcanus and see if he's willing to discuss philosophy with you... he's conversant in it.

2. miracles are, sadly, completely IMPOSSIBLE. the 'resurrection' of lazarus was probably just coincidence,i.e. he was awoken from some sort of comatose state by the sensation of hands on him.the feeding of the 2000 is probably,or has probably been exaggerated over the years,maybe from 20?the walking on water is blatant propoganda. it is BECAUSE of the miracles in the bible that i am so resolute that things must change!jesus was no superman, just a normal human with feelings of 'sovereignty'-just like me!there is no such thing as a miracle!!!!

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you narrowminded asshole!as you are so obviously experienced in mental health can you not see that jesus was simply schizophrenic too?i.e.auditory hallucinations,visual hallucinations(gabriel),AND 'delusions of grandeur'???don't worry about it-you are as ignorant as the human race gets! as a matter of fact my psychiatrists say that i am 'a okay' but 'its not in their "remit"' to help me!

Okay, I can understand that you're angry at me. I'd agree that jesus quite probably was experiencing some mental health problems. Its a shame that there weren't any effective treatments in those days.

Good that you've got a psychiatrist.

i'm sorry for 'flying off the handle' but it is EXACTLY the reason i believe so strongly in myself! after all, schizophrenia was an illness first diagnosed by Freud(born 1856,i think), who is to say that Freud was right??? i believe that freud must have been evangelist(believe soley in the scriptures)-WHAT IF the scriptures are not true?what then? as i have said before, i at first thought my blindness was caused by a star landing on me. then heard of zeus' lightning bolt and turned to that belief!it IS more plausible, don't you think?

addendum.
also, to further illustrate my point,WHY on earth would the 'messiah/christ thing' begin and end with jesus?he himself said he was a resurrection, probably knew of perseus(some 2000years earlier)and maybe that is why jesus 'adopted' the 'christ label'. i once read a book about the freudian dissident carl jung, in it it said that the word 'christ' comes from ancient greek for 'deliverer'-personally i find it hard to accept that jesus delivered anybody, apart from inventing a 'lords prayer' which says 'deliver us from evil'.also in this prayer is, i'm sure, something about life on earth being as it is on heaven.therefore he,jesus, was aware that he was 'king of the world',as my 'predecessor'(cary fayton from Dr. Eric Berne's "layman's guide to psychiatry and psychoanalysis")believed he was to be!by the way, my 'angel bob voice' once asked "what's in a name?",as i was about to enter a pub called 'uncle henrys'(old nickname for satan). further to the nickname,MY name is ancient greek for 'victory of the people'(which is why i am on this forum,lol!)and jesus' name, apparently, meant 'saviour of god'. that is just what i have read on a website a few years ago!MY 'judas' surname was mcdonald=old mcdonald, from the nursery rhyme.new name for satan? my mary of magdalin's name was/is petra oaks-acorns are poisonous? also, one of my college friends,who knew me in the first year of my illness, was called andre witkowski=like the american band 'andrew W.K.', also i thought that people i passed on the street would sometimes 'salute' me by coughing! it is,and was, ALL COINCIDENCE!BUT, how else would 'god'influence life?certainly not by appearing to people and giving commands!!!

p.s. my dictionary tells me that the definition of 'layman' is simply 'not of church'.maybe that is why i get so frustrated by the 'banality' of the clergy members i have spoken to about my beliefs?!? they are trying so very hard to 'defend' the bible which, i hate to point out, they know NOTHING about!if they did then why would there be a 'church of magdalin'???