RE: I am God
July 11, 2014 at 11:33 am
(This post was last modified: July 11, 2014 at 11:57 am by Muslim Atheism.)
(July 11, 2014 at 10:39 am)logicalreason Wrote: My problems are the following:
1. The beginning of the phrase لَا إِلٰهَ and the end "but Allah" both use the same root. But in your description you say that ilah = God and al-llah = Allah. But in reality ilah and alllah are both from the same root word. I contend your avoidance of the word "the God" as the translation of the word al-llah.
4. Is the word "Lord"/"Master" (rabb) ilah or al-llah?
5. Words such as alhamdulillah, is this reference to ilah or al-llah and how do you know the difference (is it Will of God or Will of Allah)?
Allah is Allah, Ilah is Ilah. . . for example, how do people translate this?
إِلَٰهُكُمُ اللَّهُ
(20.98)
your God is God?
and whereas Allah say
Quote: an Arabic Qur'an
without any deviance
(39:28)
this Qur'an is [in] a clear Arabic language (Quraish dialect or beyond , not today's Arabic)
(16:103)
In a clear Arabic language
(26:195)
So. . it is about translation issue and from different arabic languages.
Quote:The First Dilemma: While the language of the Qur’an remained untouched, its words and terms were made to lose the splendor they so beautifully conveyed in the original, revealed Arabic Mubeen. So much so, that the Qur’anic terms were dressed up with the erroneous philosophies prevalent in the once Zoroastrian culture of Persia, and they became widely accepted even among the Arabs! This staggering tragedy explains why, how and where, even the Arabic speaking people lose their touch with the Qur’an! The Book describes this staggering tragedy very clearly.
. . .
Now The Third Dilemma: The later generations of translators and commentators have uncritically followed the men of old and this tendency has been consistently taking its noxious toll. They have been thinking of the Ajami Arabic as the known Language of the Qur’an. By Ajami Arabic I mean applying the Zoro-Persian or any alien concepts to the Arabic words and terms of the Qur’an.
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(July 11, 2014 at 10:39 am)logicalreason Wrote: 2. You have not addressed my questions of the following verses: 55:27, 96:14, 20:39, 54:14, 68:42, 39:67, 48:10, 18:27, 78:145, 69:17, 57:4.
I have addressed this issue. It is the allegorical and the nonsense.
(July 11, 2014 at 1:03 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: and the reason why there is the allegorical in the Quran (refer here and here)
The allegorical and the nonsense are for the hypocrites and disbelievers. . .
Muslim and Believers have no doubt and does not create doubt
They don't speak nonsense or live in illusion. . they adhere themselves to the "Deen", now. . . present.
Believers are those who have mastered their sense perception and they are an expert in every fields. (refer here)
. . .
(July 11, 2014 at 10:39 am)logicalreason Wrote: 3. What is your view of the Qur'an descriptions of afterlife or Paradise?
Similarly, I have addressed this issue. This is the allegorical, and I merely stated "according to the Quran".
(July 11, 2014 at 12:39 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: According to the Quran, the right and left groups will live, eat and died. .
Then they will sleep until everything is over. .
until the heaven and the earth (planets and the whole universe) becomes one again
They will say, "O woe to us! Who has raised us up from our sleeping place?"
[The reply will be], "This is what the Most Merciful had promised, and the messengers told the truth."
36.52
The forerunners, they are not dead, but they live forever. . . and receiving provisions. . .
but no one knows how they are alive. . . and receiving provision.
And never think of those who have been killed in the cause of Allah as dead
Rather, they are alive with their Lord
receiving provision
3.169
And whoever obeys Allah and the Messenger (= the Quran)
those will be with the ones upon whom Allah has bestowed favor of the prophets
the steadfast affirmers of truth
the martyrs
and the righteous
And excellent are those as companions.
4.69
This cannot be proven and according to the Quran, I can believe, or I can absolutely ignore. .and it will not jeopardize me as a Muslim.
(June 18, 2014 at 11:26 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: Contention: Muslim don’t have to believe in Allah, Paradise, Angels, and all the allegorical issue that need further interpretation
Read together with verses 3.7 and 5.101.
This is the minimum requirement and it is the “interpretation provision” of a Muslim and a Believer.
Secondly, there is no "my point of view" because no one can prove this. For me it is within the "nonsense" category.