Is Rape Natural? Part 2, 2014 Edition
July 12, 2014 at 1:47 pm
(This post was last modified: July 12, 2014 at 1:50 pm by Whateverist.)
Just thought we needed a place to continue the discussion someplace which won't cause our busy mods any bother.
When we last left that thread Jenny had just read through the whole thing and was wondering if there was any there there apart from the penis jokes. Creed of Heresy answers.
To put aside the penis jokes for the moment, I would say rape is at least as natural as killing. It is likewise frowned upon and dealt with pretty severely in most places by law. So its being natural is not to say it is okay in any sense. It happens but we don't approve.
Oddly there are places which treat as extenuating circumstances what is referred to as an 'honor killing'. The enforcement of laws against rape has a sketchy history. Sometimes the victim is made to feel like the criminal and there are times when the victim's manner of dress or behavior is challenged as inviting rape.
There had been a poll associated with the earlier thread. I never was interested in that one much. I don't think anyone will mind if you go back to the original thread to vote if you like. That shouldn't wake the dead thread. You can find it here: http://atheistforums.org/thread-14248-page-14.html
Oh, but I should say I don't agree that we humans are not animals because biology. But natural or not our sense of justice demands retribution by way of the legal system if you decide to get your natural on with someone who says no.
When we last left that thread Jenny had just read through the whole thing and was wondering if there was any there there apart from the penis jokes. Creed of Heresy answers.
(July 12, 2014 at 11:13 am)Jenny A Wrote: Ok, so I just read most of this before discovering it's from 2012. Other than the penis jokes, was there ever a point?
(July 12, 2014 at 12:58 pm)ShaMan Wrote:(August 11, 2012 at 1:04 pm)Creed of Heresy Wrote: The problem with we humans is that we are not animals...
I reiterate, to get back on point; humans are not animals...
Not so.
Creed of Heresy Wrote:So. Rape. Is it natural to humans?Agreed.
No. No it is not.
To put aside the penis jokes for the moment, I would say rape is at least as natural as killing. It is likewise frowned upon and dealt with pretty severely in most places by law. So its being natural is not to say it is okay in any sense. It happens but we don't approve.
Oddly there are places which treat as extenuating circumstances what is referred to as an 'honor killing'. The enforcement of laws against rape has a sketchy history. Sometimes the victim is made to feel like the criminal and there are times when the victim's manner of dress or behavior is challenged as inviting rape.
There had been a poll associated with the earlier thread. I never was interested in that one much. I don't think anyone will mind if you go back to the original thread to vote if you like. That shouldn't wake the dead thread. You can find it here: http://atheistforums.org/thread-14248-page-14.html
Oh, but I should say I don't agree that we humans are not animals because biology. But natural or not our sense of justice demands retribution by way of the legal system if you decide to get your natural on with someone who says no.