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Jesus's sacrifice
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RE: Jesus's sacrifice
(May 16, 2010 at 9:25 pm)tackattack Wrote: He gives us every option so that we can lear what is truly good and what is truly evil, to learn his plan. He wants us to evolve and succeed in this endeavor, so he gives us revelations of his will and tools to gauge right vs wrong.

Now, if this were the case, how long do we have to learn "his plan?" I only ask because I don't think that young children who commit heinous murders were given every option to learn what is truly good and truly evil. This is an obvious fact. How can you learn right from wrong completely by the age of, say, ten? So, knowing that it is a fact that children can not be expected to have learned the complexities of good and 'evil' and that children have committed murder, would a Christian have to safely assume that god abandoned these children before they ever had a chance?

Furthermore, is it the child's fault, if they had never read god's revelations? I mean, if he/she was never presented with them in his/her short lifetime before committing a sin, then did god want to see that child fail?

Now, I understand that god doesn't desire us to sin, in your eyes. However, god is responsible for sin, by the definition I have been shown. Sin is not simply the absence of god's will. It is actions, as defined by the Christian representation of sin. god creates man; god is responsible for man's actions. I still think that even if sin simply was the absence of god's will, god made his will, therefore creating sin. It doesn't matter how you slice it. For example, if I am absent from work, I created that absence by ever being present. If I had never gone, I would never had been absent. I'm sorry if my analogies suck, but someone must understand the concept. Or, am I just beating my head against a wall? Tongue
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Jesus's sacrifice - by Ace Otana - May 15, 2010 at 7:26 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Dotard - May 15, 2010 at 7:49 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 15, 2010 at 11:13 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Ace Otana - May 15, 2010 at 11:22 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Minimalist - May 15, 2010 at 12:03 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by KichigaiNeko - May 16, 2010 at 12:29 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by tavarish - May 15, 2010 at 11:14 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Godschild - May 15, 2010 at 11:33 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Ace Otana - May 15, 2010 at 12:01 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Godschild - May 16, 2010 at 12:21 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 12:30 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Godschild - May 16, 2010 at 7:49 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 8:00 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Godschild - May 17, 2010 at 12:22 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 17, 2010 at 1:10 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by KichigaiNeko - May 16, 2010 at 12:44 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Minimalist - May 16, 2010 at 1:40 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by tackattack - May 16, 2010 at 3:50 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Zen Badger - May 16, 2010 at 7:41 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 1:00 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by tackattack - May 16, 2010 at 9:25 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 9:40 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by tackattack - May 17, 2010 at 1:16 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by SleepingDemon - May 16, 2010 at 10:52 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by fr0d0 - May 16, 2010 at 1:14 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 1:23 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by tackattack - May 16, 2010 at 1:21 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by SleepingDemon - May 16, 2010 at 2:27 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Minimalist - May 16, 2010 at 1:21 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Paul the Human - May 16, 2010 at 1:22 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by fr0d0 - May 16, 2010 at 3:40 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Paul the Human - May 16, 2010 at 3:46 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by fr0d0 - May 16, 2010 at 5:00 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Paul the Human - May 16, 2010 at 5:06 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by fr0d0 - May 16, 2010 at 5:25 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 5:10 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Paul the Human - May 16, 2010 at 5:24 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Minimalist - May 16, 2010 at 9:47 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 9:52 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 10:00 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 10:13 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 10:24 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Minimalist - May 16, 2010 at 10:04 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 10:28 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 10:32 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 10:38 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 10:53 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 10:57 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 11:02 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 11:04 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 11:07 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 11:08 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 11:12 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by The_Flying_Skeptic - May 16, 2010 at 11:14 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 11:16 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by The_Flying_Skeptic - May 16, 2010 at 11:24 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 11:28 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by The_Flying_Skeptic - May 16, 2010 at 11:39 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 11:43 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by The_Flying_Skeptic - May 17, 2010 at 12:00 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 17, 2010 at 12:09 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by The_Flying_Skeptic - May 16, 2010 at 11:49 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 11:53 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by The_Flying_Skeptic - May 17, 2010 at 12:25 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 17, 2010 at 12:44 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Minimalist - May 17, 2010 at 1:16 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 17, 2010 at 1:24 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by tackattack - May 17, 2010 at 11:24 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Dotard - May 18, 2010 at 9:26 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by tackattack - May 19, 2010 at 12:49 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Minimalist - May 19, 2010 at 1:41 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Dotard - May 19, 2010 at 10:19 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Minimalist - May 19, 2010 at 10:52 am

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