The redneck strike again.

[bennyboy]

Speaking of delusions of grandeur, thanks for speaking for an entire country of vastly different opinions,

Never happened.

and speaking for underprivileged families as if we don't do anything to help them,

Also never happened. I didn't say we don't make a gesture of helping poor people. I said the degree of overconsumption by Americans is an insult to nature and to hungry people in other countries.

and assuming that you know what is 'insulting' to nature, as if it could be insulted.

It's a figure of speech. The point is that human excess causes an increase in our impact on nature-- and you'd be making a pretty strange argument if you suggest that our impact on the Earth is a positive one.

Oh, and there's nothing about humanism that requires any sort of woo-ey soul talk.

Nor is there any logical or rational basis to it. Selfishness is selfishness, whatever it's called. Anyway, I didn't say anything about woo. I said that the Western idea that humans are intrinsically more deserving of moral consideration than animals reflects Biblical ideas about our uniqueness. Don't believe me? Go ahead and explain why human suffering matters, but that of animals does not.