Objectifying women

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It's how and when you say it, your tact, that is the crux of this I think.

If the problem is with tack, then attack the tack, tackattack, not the position.

Unsolicited? This is a debate forum, don't enter into discussions if you're gonna get all butt-hurt over the opinions of others. And I believe you may have failed to noticed the biggest sore-ass in this discussion was the one who started it.

I didn't start this thread with "Tips for rape prevention". My OP was asking about women objectifying themselves when it comes to beauty pageants, mens magazines and the like. Posting an unsolicited de-railing comment about rape in an open discussion forum effectively solicited the responses.

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I agree with Tarvish, responsibility is different to blame of course, blame has the negative connotation of it being someones "fault". You can be the victim and still be partially responsible for what happened to you in the sense you didn't take enough precautions or were careless or whatever so it increased the likelihood of you getting hurt, NOT in the sense of "blame" in the sense of it's your "fault".

Emotions always get in the fucking way of arguments IMO. Even with the most cood headed people it can be an issue.

Sometimes. Not always. I have absolutely no emotional attachment to this discussion.

I fucking love emotions, but when you mix them in with debates everything is fucked up to fucking fuck.

Fucking fucked up fuckity fucked up fuck.

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Did we mention that's pretty fucked up?