(July 23, 2014 at 9:26 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Look at the Buster Douglas fight? You do know he got knocked out that fight right? By a nobody? When he was supposedly in his prime? Lou Savarese and McNeeley were not exactly world championship fighters either. In truth Tyson never really fought anyone all that great, people massively overestimate how good he was. He ducked the competition and was frankly a disgusting human being. You think Ali was bad? Tyson was a woman beating rapist. He was a complete disgrace to the sport when he bit Evander's ear, not once but twice. If he was truly the best he would have had a much better legacy than what he left, there's plenty of fighters who have better legacies.
Clearly this memory thing doesn't work well for me when I need it to. I meant Trevor Berbick not Buster Douglas. I was trying to refer to the fight where Tyson was a challenger when he was 20. However, Buster Douglas was not exactly a nobody. He was lazy but he had a lot of natural talent. His jabs were not exactly what you'd expect from a nobody.
It's a popular thing for people to rush to mention that Tyson bit Holyfield's ear. The question is how many people actually know the full story? Not many. When dealing with reputations I admit that it doesn't matter who knows the full story. A stained rep is a stained rep. Tyson bit Holyfield's ear because Holyfield was cheating. He was headbutting Tyson throughout the match. The ref didn't see this and Tyson acted out of frustration. For me only woman beating rapist sticks. But this too can be "challenged". I say Tyson paid for his sins. He did the time for his crime. He apologised to society. Ali on the other hand got away. He could sell his name for $10 million while Joe Frazier was dead broke living in the top of the gym he trained for the thriller in Manila.
(July 23, 2014 at 9:26 pm)Napoléon Wrote: The Ballon d'Ors aren't really comparable to championship rings seen as you get voted to win a Ballon d'Or. I mean, for the last two years Franck Ribery has been one of the most voted for players, he isn't even the best player on Bayern Munich let alone in the world. I honestly couldn't give two fucks about the Ballon d'Or.
You do have a point. I would like to add that the Ballon d'Or includes coaches, players and journalists in their voting process. It has a broader base in terms of sample size. Soccer has 11 players on the pitch. It therefore stands to reason that it is more difficult to co-ordinate that number of men. What I mean is that the efforts of one player are more diluted. Basketball is a 5 man sport. A single man's performance is a lot more realisable than in soccer. I guess it was a bad move on my part to mention championships as you noted.
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