(July 28, 2014 at 12:46 am)Esquilax Wrote: (Today 03:56)Harris Wrote: If abiogenesis is not the base of evolution, then how you justify the evolution in the first place.
We don't know. And that's it.
Very interestng, there is no foundation yet there is a big theory with so may intricate details. More interestengly everyone seems to be happy with this theory without even knowing this theory at its root level.
(July 28, 2014 at 12:46 am)Esquilax Wrote: Seriously. We don't know how life originated; it could have arisen by natural means, or a god of some stripe could have done it, or some other thing. We know it's at least theoretically possible that it could happen naturally, but that's where the science stops. But we know that things evolve. .
I am pleased to see the writing above because it contains the word god. The concept of God is naturaly embossed over our conscious. You can take it serious or not but you can negate it only by denying your own conscious person.
(July 28, 2014 at 12:46 am)Esquilax Wrote: Quote: In other words, how life originated in first place if it is not spontaneous. Theory of evolution only leads us to believe in the spontaneous emergence of life by not giving appropriate explanation about the birth of first cell of life.
You know what? Gravity doesn't give an explanation about the birth of the first cell either, does that mean gravity leads us to believe in spontaneous emergence too? Evolution and the origins of life are entirely different ideas, evolution doesn't address abiogenesis in the same way cheese doesn't have anything to say about gold: they are not connected. .
I agree that gravity doesn’t give an explanation about the birth of the first cell. But the trouble here is that no one is believing that gravity has produced life. All what you are saying is evolution and natural selection responsible for the life on earth. Therefore, your example does not fit in here.
Abiogenesis and evolution are not separate things, they are deeply interconnected with each other. Tell me if there was no first cell then would evolution (in which you believe) ever happened and do you think you and me were corresponding with each other here? Further, what makes you believe that life started from the first living cell. Maybe life has started in absolutely different way.